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Old 16-06-2012, 00:08   #16
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Re: Exactly 100 times cheaper and easier

More comfortable?!? What airlines are you flying?

I will give you cheaper, easier and less time consuming. I think less stressful is debatable. Clearly you have not dealt with United customer service. As for more fun, clearly we have a different definition of fun. To each their own. But more comfortable? really?
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Old 16-06-2012, 00:15   #17
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Re: Exactly 100 times cheaper and easier

How much does that waterfront accommodation with separate lounge dining room, ability to step off the balcony and slide into the cool clear water and fantastic water views cost you/night on arrival?
$300- $1000?
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Old 16-06-2012, 00:47   #18
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Can't see the ocean at 30,000 feet. Besides I hate flying.

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Old 16-06-2012, 01:03   #19
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YES THAT'S WHAT IT'S ABOUT!!!! +1
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Old 16-06-2012, 01:27   #20
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This morning I jumped off the boat and went for my morning skinny dip.. wonderful.

I tried it once on the plane but for some reason they objected to a naked man trying to open the door at 10,000 feet.

Some people have just got no sense of adventure
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Re: Exactly 100 times cheaper and easier

It depends on the cost of your boat and the sailing you intend to do. Most people are not full time live aboards. Most people are extremely lucky to get three maybe four months a year worth of sailing in. If your boats worth is less than 60K then sailing is probably a cost effective way to travel. If your boats 150K -250K plus, as many Cats are, then adding together initial boat cost, upgrades, depreciation, insurance, 10% a year maintenance, monthly dock and marina storage costs, permits, stocking a boat with food and fuel, etc. then world cruising aboard a luxury cruise ship can be a lot more comfortable and with the constant deals the cruise lines offer probably a whole lot cheaper for three to four months a year.
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Old 16-06-2012, 03:03   #22
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Re: Exactly 100 times cheaper and easier

a fold up kayak and a tent is all you need to fly and spend time on the water...

i think it was paul theroux who wrote a book about doing exactly this in the new hebredies/solomon islands if i remember correctly the book was called "paddling the happy illes of oceania" or something to that effect.....

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Old 16-06-2012, 03:59   #23
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All too true, but when you get there you can anchor off a world class beach for free or spend hundreds per night on a hotel. Stay a month or so and the economics start looking a little better.
I've never spent hundreds per night on a hotel . But I have lived very nicely in plenty of places around the world for extended periods - mostly having a ball . Having said that, I have also been based in some complete sh#tholes .....some of those even with world class beaches attached.

Budgets range from cheap to free (on that latter one it's not what you know - it's who you know ) and accomadation from 5 star to slum ....sometimes even with hot and cold running "entertainment" as part of the deal .

The "secret" is to go for multiple months (longer the better - and move around slowly), and not simply a 10 day vacation.....that way you can swap time for money by learning what and where good value is. and get to meet people - especially locals, as well as fellow foreigners.

Airplanes? For me (unless someone else is paying!) that is Monkey Class ......is it pleasant? no! is the food good? no! are airports fun? no!.....but it's not for a week, suck it up and spend the pennies saved wisely (or very badly ) when you arrive.....and if you go for multiple months then 10 to 18 hours of travel PITA ain't so bad.
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Old 16-06-2012, 06:25   #24
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Can't see the ocean at 30,000 feet. Besides I hate flying.

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Well there was this one time on a flight from London to Atlanta when we were south of Greenland the skies cleared enough to look down and see breaking waves.

I figured if I could see that from 30,000' they must be huge. One time I was really happy to be in a plane instead of a boat.
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Re: Exactly 100 times cheaper and easier

Like others here, I have to fly half way around the world every 2 months for my given area of operation, in the profession of my choice, the flight coming and going is the hardest part of my 2 months away from home. Once I quit, I will never get on another plane as long as I live, if I can't get there on my boat, I ai'nt goin'.
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Old 16-06-2012, 06:53   #26
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Brisbane to LA 15hrs + 2hrs to get back on for New York another 5hrs all good until being launched into peak traffic to learn to drive on the wrong side of the road at 6pm at night. Miss my boat & Moreton Bay!! Anyone in the USA needing help to clean out their bar refridgerator?

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Re: Exactly 100 times cheaper and easier

Really guys?

1 round the world equipped and fitted out sailboat $40,000-$200,000

1 round the world plane ticket with Euro rail passes and intra-continental jumper flights $12,000.

I think you guys are deluding yourselves to the actual cost of sailing a boat long distances.

How much is that SSB radio install going to cost you? How far would that get you in air/train fare? Already have a SSB? How bout that water maker? How about that bottom paint, safety harness, new standing rigging, new running rigging, sails? Really guys, there is no comparison.
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Really guys?

1 round the world equipped and fitted out sailboat $40,000-$200,000

1 round the world plane ticket with Euro rail passes and intra-continental jumper flights $12,000.

I think you guys are deluding yourselves to the actual cost of sailing a boat long distances.

How much is that SSB radio install going to cost you? How far would that get you in air/train fare? Already have a SSB? How bout that water maker? How about that bottom paint, safety harness, new standing rigging, new running rigging, sails? Really guys, there is no comparison.
However whilst you are flying you are likely maintaining SOMETHING back home equating to all that you have listed i guess?
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Re: Exactly 100 times cheaper and easier

flying sukks.

i enjoy the sea life visible from a sailboat. why fly when i have a perfectly good position on the water.
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Re: Exactly 100 times cheaper and easier

If we were going purely practical one would just lay in bed until they die, since that is where we are all headed anyway.
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