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Old 19-03-2014, 15:03   #121
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Re: Dolphin Asks Diver For help

Now Now Coops don't be saying things that are not true. I didn't recall using the word lunatic and looked through my posts and couldn't find if I did. I seemed to have upset you and maybe its time to swallow your pride here. Stating you were all on crack is generally accepted as a friendly joking phrase since I would have no idea if any of you are on crack. I was defending my side of the argument and only insulted those that insulted me.

I respect the opinions of others but don't always agree. Its time to lighten up!!!
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Merely to correct your wording, if you read my last post I did not say that you used the word lunatic.

PS. I cannot see that I actually have any pride in copy and pasting a video. Simply light entertainment was all it intended to be.

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PS. I cannot see that I actually have any pride in copy and pasting a video. Simply light entertainment was all it intended to be.

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I've tried staying out of the argument, I may even have been an instigator, if so I didn't mean to do that

Anyway I enjoyed seeing it again, thanks,
nothing wrong with someone sharing some of the good things in life, everything doesn't have to be about disasters, deaths and murders.
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Totally agree. Don't see any reason to be so negative, so much.

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Great example of human reasoning there. Bloody funny.

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Stating you were all on crack is generally accepted as a friendly joking phrase since I would have no idea if any of you are on crack. I was defending my side of the argument and only insulted those that insulted me.

I respect the opinions of others but don't always agree. Its time to lighten up!!!
I don't think many here took the crack statement as humor, but more condescending and belligerent. You have been defending your side of the "argument" by implying that anyone who does not believe as you do is crazy.

Nor have you provided any rational defense as to why you believe that only humans can reason. Just saying that only humans can reason, is a belief, a statement without any supportive evidence.

It would be nice if you could substantiate your claim with a few references to papers supportive of your belief. What little research I've done in support of your belief, seems to basically come down to: "because God made only man in his on image". Not really scientific at all.

Here is another link supporting intelligence in Cetaceans.

Cetacean intelligence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As Dolphins and humans are vastly different in both mental structure and environment, It is fairly obvious that dolphin reasoning will be somewhat different from man. But to say that only man can reason, really has little scientific support. In fact, outside various religious websites, I find much support for Cetacean intelligence. They communicate with each other and some have also learned to understand human sign language. We on the other had have yet to decipher any of the Cetaceans voice patterns.

Who knows, they may even have their own religion.
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Right on, Sailorchic34, and from what I've seen here, I still think mottseng meets all the choreographic requirements to run for congress (lunging, sidestepping, backpedalling, you name it)...
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Coops, despite the negativity, or perhaps because of it you have definitely provided some relief from this winter of our discontent. Thank you
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mottseng for congress!!!! For all of Neeltje's reasons.
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Coops, despite the negativity, or perhaps because of it you have definitely provided some relief from this winter of our discontent. Thank you
That reminds me of a camping shop that was having an end of season sale in Sydney. Outside the shop was a sign, "Now, is the winter of our discount tents." Inspired I thought.

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Fun discussion of unreasonable reasoning.

Despite the banality I reason this discussion to be above the reasoning of dolphins and dolphins too intelligent to engage in such nonsense.
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That reminds me of a camping shop that was having an end of season sale in Sydney. Outside the shop was a sign, "Now, is the winter of our discount tents." Inspired I thought.

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It would be near impossible to cut and paste the many scientific publications that make reference to animals having the ability to reason or not. Science continues to study this and articles continue to get published in scientific journals. I for one am on the side of animals not having the same reasoning ability as humans and never will. As Sailorchic34 mentions, there is the creation and God aspect to the belief of only humans can reason however, I discount that and have never brought that aspect into this debate. Below I have pasted one small scientific view as well as a list of references supporting and discounting my side of this debate.

Finally, John Searle (1994) has argued that since animals lack certain linguistic abilities, they cannot think or reasons about institutional facts (for example, facts about money or marriages), facts about the distant past (for example, facts about matters before their birth), logically complex facts (for example, subjunctive facts or facts that involve mixed quantifies), or facts that can only be represented via some symbolic system (for example, facts pertaining to the days of the week). In addition, and more interesting, Searle (2001) has argued that since animals cannot perform certain speech acts such as asserting, they cannot have desire-independent reasons for action. According to this argument, animals act only for the sake of satisfying some non-rationally assessable desire (for example, the satisfaction of hunger) and never out of a sense of commitment. Consequently, if acts of courage, fidelity, loyalty, and parental commitment involve desire-independent reasons for action, as they arguably do, then on Searle’s argument here, no animal is or can be courageous, faithful, loyal, or a committed parent.

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