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Old 15-09-2011, 12:40   #61
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Re: Deep-Sea Fishing Not Sustainable - Study

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The problem is that dolphins are competing against us humans for the fish catch. Remove the dolphins and there will be more fish for us. Just because god engineered the dolphins DNA with a smile should not change your perception of the situation. If they were really ugly and stole food from your galley, what would be your attitude? So use that same attitude against flipper! Be consistent and logical, not emotional!

You have to be kidding right? Are you going to kill off the wolves again too?
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Old 15-09-2011, 12:44   #62
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oh boy....wolf n flipper stew.......
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Is that towards me jimbo? Lol
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My previous post about the mentally challenged and salt was directed at MY post, not coyfish's post.
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Thanx for clearin that up...lol
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Re: Deep-Sea Fishing Not Sustainable - Study

Your right of course coyfish, a lot of people are changing. But everywhere I go its is the big autos that drive up and unload at the docks, that provision with everything double wrapped from the store. For those already buying from the local producers or like Seahag, making their own food, my message is not for you. I think alot of us (including me sometimes) have this double standard.
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Old 15-09-2011, 15:28   #67
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Re: Deep-Sea Fishing Not Sustainable - Study

raising fish in ocean sea pens seems a good idea.
We need to make more food for ever more people.
I hate to see food being used for fuel like in ethanol.
Corn for fuel makes corn more expensive and starvation increases.
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Old 15-09-2011, 15:36   #68
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Well if Europes farmers could be taken off their payments not to grow... and the money distributed to fishermen not to fish for five years that should do some good...
We rotate on land why not with fish stocks... Cod year, Herring year... blah blah
We do that... in NC anyway..
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Your right of course coyfish, a lot of people are changing. But everywhere I go its is the big autos that drive up and unload at the docks, that provision with everything double wrapped from the store. For those already buying from the local producers or like Seahag, making their own food, my message is not for you. I think alot of us (including me sometimes) have this double standard.
Some people really NEED big vehicles, because they have a trailer boat. But where I sell, there's a wide range of vehicles, most of them moderate or smaller in size. I just don't think sweeping generalizations help -- and it seems to me that sweeping generalizations are always negative.

Many people can't use solar or wind power. I couldn't have in my condo, but I applaud those who can. Likewise I wouldn't have been able to plant a garden, but I just don't LIKE gardening. I'm not good at it. There are lots of other things I can do, and I do them.

I bet just about everyone here does something. I bet just about everyone here would like to do more. Changes like this are often gradual. I don't think yelling that no one is doing enough is really helpful.
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raising fish in ocean sea pens seems a good idea.
We need to make more food for ever more people.
I hate to see food being used for fuel like in ethanol.
Corn for fuel makes corn more expensive and starvation increases.
They raise fish in pens down in the Peruvian Fjords and are causing very bad things to happen ..most is Salmon production and the waste that these genetic fish produce is un-balancing the whole eco -system...if we are going to talk about the enviroment we had better...hell we are the enviroment..pass me the salt please..
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We do that... in NC anyway..
From what I saw the Oriental Shrimp boats were out just about every week...
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From what I saw the Oriental Shrimp boats were out just about every week...
I was thinking about Rockfish(strip bass)they have or had a two fish limit of 15lb min. and a friend of mine fished commercial with a pond net and it would be full with hundreds of pounds of these fish and he could not keep but two..lots would get half way through and die..he had to throw them back or risk running afoul with the law...sorry state of affairs..maybe it made a difference..
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Re: Deep-Sea Fishing Not Sustainable - Study

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I stand corrected! Of course Jesus was a carpenter!! (so am I - boat carpenter as well as commercial fisherman now retired - sometimes I get confused!)
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Old 15-09-2011, 18:49   #74
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New Fish Farms Move from Ocean to Warehouse | Worldwatch Institute

here they are raising fish on land in tanks, Cobia. Interesting that they can do this.
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Re: Deep-Sea Fishing Not Sustainable - Study

I think we should find a commercial market for sea lions - theyre easy to kill, there's too many of them. They used to follow my salmon troller and rob me blind! They would peel off the fish as fast as we could catch them. All you could do is pick up your gear and run to a new spot and hope they dont find you.
BTW, the reason there are so many of them is because we've killed off the white sharks and Orca whales - the balance of nature is not so well balanced anymore.
Boy, I could go on and on and on and.........
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