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Old 18-10-2013, 17:05   #16
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Re: David Suzuki explains

Although a little off topic, if there is one left, this comparison of Levant and Suzuki might prove enlightening.

This is from a blog on the Suzuki Foundation web site.
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We would also like to take a moment to set the record straight: Although Sun Media consistently refers to David Suzuki as a saint, he isn't. He has received many awards and honours, including being named a Companion of the Order of Canada, but he has not been sainted or knighted, and he's human, not infallible. He's a 77-year-old grandfather who has devoted his life to communicating the wonders of science and finding solutions for our shared environmental problems. But mostly he's a human doing what he can to make a positive difference.

We find it strange that anyone would be opposed to protecting the air, water, land and biodiversity that we need for our health and survival, but recent attempts to tarnish the reputation of David Suzuki, as well as the Foundation and other environmental groups, show that some people view short-term profit for the fossil fuel industry as more important than protecting the planet.

Those not familiar with Sun News host Ezra Levant who also founded a propaganda organization and website to promote the fossil fuel industry and target environmental groups might be interested to know he has been proven in court to be less than credible, with a judge in one case ruling that he spoke in "reckless disregard of the truth." In fact, he's currently facing another in a string of libel charges. He's also had to apologize publicly for rants and comments that were deemed racist and has been found in violation of the Canadian Broadcasting Standards Council's ethical guidelines. He doesn't believe in the science of climate change, thinks recycling is "pointless" and believes Canada should put all its economic eggs in the oil sands basket. Many of his attacks are ad hominem that is, they are aimed at perceived flaws in an individual's character rather than his arguments and most are blatantly false.

He appears to take issue with the fact that David Suzuki has been rewarded for his many well-earned successes as a prolific author, scientist, speaker and host of the popular and long-running TV show The Nature of Things, among other accomplishments.
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Dr. Suzuki is a well respected scientist in Canada and has fought the good fight for many years.
Can you tell me what are David Suzuki's qualifications as a climate scientist, please?
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Re: David Suzuki explains

Read the article on the Suzuki Foundation web site. It will explain it all for you.
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Re: David Suzuki explains

You could of course just tell what they are instead of making folks go to another website to get the information that you obviously know. Wouldn't that be more helpful to all concerned?

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Suzuki is a geneticist.

He has no background in climatology.
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You could of course just tell what they are instead of making folks go to another website to get the information that you obviously know. Wouldn't that be more helpful to all concerned?
No, you can find his credentials just as easy as I can.
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Re: David Suzuki explains

You mean he was a geneticist. It's been at least 30 years since he's done any research. The question was rhetorical.
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You mean he was a geneticist. It's been at least 30 years since he's done any research. The question was rhetorical.
Do you have a source you can cite that states he has done no research in 30 years?

He may not have practiced as a genetic scientist during that time. I don't know that he has or hasn't, do you? But he is a scientist and a respected member of the order of Canada and has done much research in those 30 years. So why continue with the ad hominem attacks?

At least you are not quoting Mr. Levant. What scientific training does he have?
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I've read numerous articles on climate change and how much humans are responsible. I've tried to find definitive proof that climate change is totally our fault.
It has not been credibly asserted that climate change is "totally our fault". It is becoming clearer that human activity has had a significant warming effect upon the climate.

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Weather forecasters predicted this was supposed to be a very bad year for hurricanes, based in part on climate change. It didn't happen. In fact it was the weakest year since 1983. That tells me scientists still don't know as much as we often give them credit for knowing.
"Weather" (short-term) does not equal "climate" (long-term). Homework: how much have the ocean temperatures gone up over the last century? What do you predict that will do to climate?
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Taking a crap on as eminent and dedicated a scientist and science interpreter as Dr Suzuki is definitive proof of the ethical bankruptcy of the anti science position. Of course, if you can dump on an entire branch of science, dissing just one is childsplay.
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scientific method
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a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.
"criticism is the backbone of the scientific method"
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scientific method
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"criticism is the backbone of the scientific method"
Criticism of method and interpretation are indeed the backbone of science. Not criticism of personality or ad hominem attacks. I have seen interviews with Dr. Suzuki where he discussed his own past mistakes and discussed how he was changing his methods. He does not pretend, like some, that he is infallible.

But enough about him. Listen to his message instead of dissing the man. Are you not big enough to do that?
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Suzuki is a geneticist.

He has no background in climatology.
The Wright Brothers were Writers, Editors and Bicycle manufacturers and had no background in flight.
Orville: printer/publisher, bicycle retailer/manufacturer, airplane inventor/manufacturer, pilot trainer
Wilbur: editor, bicycle retailer/manufacturer, airplane inventor/manufacturer, pilot trainer.
I guess they researched it and became an authority.
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So senor, you haven't sent me any PM's on this post yet?
Snarky, aren't we?

I'm amazed this thread hasn't been pulled, or at least locked.
All the other global warming / cooling chicken little whatever threads have been.
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