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Old 18-09-2011, 19:41   #1
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Crew for Thought

I was just browsing the crews wanted/available and I seen tons of crew avalible no exp willing to learn ect. I've also talked to many a sailer on the forum and they all tell me the same thing.....crew on someone elses boat. My point is how many of you out there have honestly took someone on and taught them the basics? I tried answering a few ads and I have a leg up on most cause I can navigate and many more skills I've picked up yet no replys. So it makes me curious as to how many of you actually take on greenhorns....just curious,
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Old 18-09-2011, 19:48   #2
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I've taken greenhorns. With mixed success. Wouldn't do it from an ad though, never. Only by meeting in some yachting environment: walking the docks, YC, cruiser destination...
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i took on some crew on my way to ensenada-- the greenie is a fella i met here on this board-- great navigator, fast learner-- did goooood...
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So there is a few...huh. makes sense with the face to face thing...was only wandering ...im sure there's a lot of frustrated ppl out there still lookin
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Old 18-09-2011, 20:54   #5
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So there is a few...huh. makes sense with the face to face thing...was only wandering ...im sure there's a lot of frustrated ppl out there still lookin
I've selected crew from this site to sail with me to Australia from California.

You do have to "sell" yourself to some degree, show interest in learning facets of sailing, I'm not into ocean hitchhickers per say who just want a ride. When I read " that sounds just like my kind of fun boat, can I come along"....NAH!

My crew are eager to learn and I'll enjoy showing them the ropes, sailing, navigation, watchkeeping and log entries, the lot, so that when they step on another boat they have gained good, safety conconsious skills in boat handling!

skippers want crew not liabilities to nurse!
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Old 18-09-2011, 22:53   #6
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personally, i would rather someone who dosent know which end of a winch handle to grab but is eager and willing to learn with a great personality than someone with experience who is either a dead fish, know it all, or confused about who is the captain.

where r u located?

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Interesting. I suppose I am what you guys call a "greenhorn"

I'm in the situation you describe, to a tee. I'm interested in learning all facets of sailing and hopefully becoming a competent sailor, on other people's boats. I have no real plan to buy a boat in the near future and I'm traveling a lot, so crewing with others and learning as I go is the only way.

I guess I have a way to go with the selling of myself, I understand Jamel's point about people just hitchhiking on other people's boats, and that is not really what I am about, although, due to the nature of my real job (winemaking) it makes a lot of sense for me to try and get onto boats that are traveling to countries where I can find some land-based work. So I hope that isn't how I've been coming across.

interesting thread, I'm glad you brought it up. I have been thinking for awhile that I'd better start spending my weekends down at the bay lurking around wharfs and trying to meet people!

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personally, i would rather someone who dosent know which end of a winch handle to grab but is eager and willing to learn with a great personality than someone with experience who is either a dead fish, know it all, or confused about who is the captain.

where r u located?

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I will second that one. It's incredible the amount of BS someone will tell you to boast their experience. Usually lack of. I'd rather feel I have to keep an eye on someone then turn my back for a second and hear the "glurk" sound of an expensive piece of gear going over-board.
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Here is a tip to prospective crew: bring something unique, special, interesting to the bargain. Everybody says they can sail. And as a boat owner I already have that completely covered. Have something else. Boundless energy. Charm. Music. 2 women in tow . Philosophy. Something.
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I did.

I also learned on other sailor's boats.

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Re: Crew for Thought

The ads that always crack me up are the ones from people with no experience wanting to crew on a long passage crossing. Be real!

I've taken crew out that I found on CF. But for me to take someone I don't know, and doesn't have any experience, is kind of questionable. If I knew them a while ahead of time I would take them if I didn't feel they were a nut.

So if you have no experience you need to meet owners so they get to know you some before they take the risk on you.
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Daddle has it right, bring a useful skill, especially a maintenance skill.

We have taught several people and the ones that get invited back are hard workers who put in more than they take out! My friend Dick asks for a work list the day he gets on the boat and tries to fix one thing a day...he used to fix planes for the Marine Corps.

Biggest problems we have had have been the needy wives, girlfriends and mothers left on land. I have been reported 'lost at sea' twice when less than 12 hours late into port, once on a 500 mile trip and once when 2 hours late on an overnighter to Bimini
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we have taken literally hundreds of backpacker type crew over the last 100 000 miles,many who had little or no sailing experiance,all i asked for was a willing attitude and happy nature.
we very rarely had a problem,and are still in contact with many of them via facebook......
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I've taken 3 crew that were unknown. The first 2 admitted knowing little. They turned out helpful, and would be asked to return. The third claimed he knew everything. He knew nothing, and became a floating disaster. It can be a roll of the dice..........i2f
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personally, i would rather someone who dosent know which end of a winch handle to grab but is eager and willing to learn with a great personality than someone with experience who is either a dead fish, know it all, or confused about who is the captain.

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Im from sandiego but I been in indiana for a few wks visiting family. I also found a boat im buying on lake erie next wk. But im afraid she will be stuck all winter till I get some exp to move her to the keys and beyond. I could be anywhere for the right situation ..as for "selling" my self, i got loads of personality...a musician and enough stories to keep anyone occupied for crossing or two...lol I was mainly wandering if ppl actually did take green horns on cause I understand the time and effort put into it
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