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Old 11-08-2013, 12:44   #46
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Re: Couple Flees America, Gets Tax Payer Rides Home

They sailed the wrong ocean! To get to former Jim Jones' Guyana, they should have sailed the Caribbean; heading south, even though the occupants' address has changed.

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They might be total nutballs, but we don't really know. Not a one of these articles provides any information about their preparedness. I can't condemn them as nutballs until I have a bit more information. Their religious beliefs alone aren't enough for me.
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Then again ... them at least had an ADVENTURE.

How many of us wait till retired, insured, EPIRB fully charged ... belt&braces and two hulls (just in case) ...

They were out there, doing sailing, or drifting, possibly having the adventure of their lives!

How many of us can claim a similar achievement ever?

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At least they're wearing construction hard hats. Guess they forgot though that the boom is at the back of the boat.
Actually they are the only ones in photo not wearing hard hats or colanders for that matter!
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Old 11-08-2013, 14:27   #50
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Waco, TX (branch dividians' fame) and Suriname (British Guyana/Jim Jones' fame) are not accepting applications from anyone wanting to speedily go to heaven. Missed the boat!

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I doubt they know how to use the internet let alone create a forum account
that's right...I've been told it's the Devils tool.

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"decided to take a leap of faith and see where God led us"

This sounds awfully Jesusy to me.

BTW, I'm not anti religion, but I don't like when people defer responsibility to a higher power (or anyone) because thinking is too hard.
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You should hear the French on the rest of the world...Gheeesh!
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So will you be setting sail for Kiribati now too?
No, don't think so. Just making fun of their reason for going as they are now benefiting from the taxes they didn't want to pay.
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No, don't think so. Just making fun of their reason for going as they are now benefiting from the taxes they didn't want to pay.
Yes they benefit from return flight, but repatriation is not free in America. The gov't will want their expenses covered, and then some. So me thinks they are really not going to be too pleased with gov't when they get the bill from the state department.
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Yes they benefit from return flight, but repatriation is not free in America. The gov't will want their expenses covered, and then some. So me thinks they are really not going to be too pleased with gov't when they get the bill from the state department.
If the same as in the UK, then they lose their passports until the IOU is paid. That does not stop them travelling of course - just arriving in most places (except maybe Moscow ).

Overall that good news for the rest of the world - not so good for the USA .
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If the same as in the UK, then they lose their passports until the IOU is paid. That does not stop them travelling of course - just arriving in most places (except maybe Moscow ).

Overall that good news for the rest of the world - not so good for the USA .
Interesting side note about Moscow. The transit visa for airport is only 24 hours in transit corridor for most Americans, then must be on international flight out! That is MOST Americans.
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As a long term expat, is it just my perception, or does the USA have a higher incidence of such nut cases than any other country? The religous loonies, the preppers, etc I meet always seem to be American.
In America you have the right to be anything you want to be,be it loonie or expat...Some get out before they go loonie,others go loonie and then try to get out..
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Well, at least the Pastafarians are conciously being satirical...the other loonies actually believe their rubbish.

Had a looney prepper tell me recently that the cold I have is not due to it being a normal communicable disease, but because the gov't sprays pathogens and mind-control chemicals into the atmosphere...and he was dead serious...and American.
No doubt he came here thru immigrant relations,"real americans" aint like that..ha ha ha!
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All of my British friends think of America as being a 12 year old nation of rampaging capitalists.
So what,you will have that on a big job...
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No doubt he came here thru immigrant relations,"real americans" aint like that..ha ha ha!
Nor young ones as per David Bowie
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Yes they benefit from return flight, but repatriation is not free in America. The gov't will want their expenses covered, and then some. So me thinks they are really not going to be too pleased with gov't when they get the bill from the state department.
Would love to hear the facts on this, I'm very curious what it will cost them to get home after their faith based excursion...

Here lately it seems that the seasoned skippers are heading for Davey Jones locker, while those that are ostensibly sailing well beyond their skillset (assumed) make it home... Of course I realize it is more complex than this, and at least some of the recent tragedies at sea reflect some cavalier passage planning by the experienced sailors.

An ideologue may be better prepared to deal with a smack-down from the ocean than a pragmatist... I mean, I think the storms and catching fish and being in gods hands was probably a religious experience for them, and getting home safely is affirmation. The bill, maybe not so much...

Maybe their daughter who was born on board will turn out to be an able sea woman. I wonder how the older one felt, must have been traumatic.

I think a "lost at sea" reality show would sell. Maybe we're working up to it.
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