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Old 10-06-2007, 08:56   #31
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Del, I don't undersand what's wrong with plastic bags. I mean, around here I see them blowing around in tree branches after major storms. Aren't they a natural product, like apples, that grows on trees? (sigh)
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Old 10-06-2007, 09:43   #32
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Clean this up. I think humans can do anything with the will. Certainly there are enough big ships to do it. Or perhaps we can pay commercial fisherman to harvest garbage and pay them a rate equal to a commercial fish harvest. In fact, garbage may be all that there is to harvest, as the New York Times reports that only 10% of big fish stocks remain out there.
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Old 10-06-2007, 11:05   #33
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Del, I don't undersand what's wrong with plastic bags. I mean, around here I see them blowing around in tree branches after major storms. Aren't they a natural product, like apples, that grows on trees? (sigh)
The official flag of Mexico is a plastic bag stuck in the spines of a cactus.

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Old 10-06-2007, 14:16   #34
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I was raised by parents that went through both depressions.
You’ve piqued my interest with your reference to both depressions.
1. The “Great” depression (1929 – WWII)
2. and ... ?
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Hey Del.

There is only one depression that I know of.

The Great Depression. From October 1929 to World War 2.

So what was the second depression. And when was that??
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A lot of people burn their garbage at low tide between the tide lines.
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Ooops!

I guess I should proof read a little better.

I meant they both went through the depression.

Maybe I'm dyslexic
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I guess I should proof read a little better.

I meant they both went through the depression.

Maybe I'm dyslexic
Nobody's perfect. Even I make spelling mistakes.

My parents grew up during the Depression also. As I am sure a lot of members in this forum either had parents who lived or were born during that era.
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A lot of people burn their garbage at low tide between the tide lines.
Yes I have heard about that one.

They burn the garbage during low tide. And when the tide rises. It either washes some, or all the garbage around. Till it either breaks up and dissapears. Or ends up on the shore somewhere?
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The Great Depression was not the first. Depressions have been cyclical in the US, there was a major one after the Civil War (1860s-70s) and then IIRC one more in between that and the "Great" Depression.

Of course, it would have been unthinkable for The Government to teach us in grade school that there was something inherently wrong with our economy that produced regular deep depressions every 30-odd years like clockwork, so they mainly ignored the previous ones in order to avoid explaining that another one was expected 'soon'.
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Two quarters of negative growth...

I believe that technically a depression is two or more quarters of negative growth.

I seem to remember one or two, and I'm not that old.

It is probably a death sentence to politicians so these days they really try to avoid them.
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I believe that technically a depression is what two or more accountants suffer when talking about quarters of negative growth ; ) .....
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Yes I have heard about that one.

They burn the garbage during low tide. And when the tide rises. It either washes some, or all the garbage around. Till it either breaks up and dissapears. Or ends up on the shore somewhere?
One would hope that if they took the time and trouble to burn their trash then they would take care to do it well, leaving only ashes to be washed away on the tide. Also that they would not burn plastic and that they would not sit down wind. But you never know...
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