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Old 03-05-2013, 12:46   #31
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Re: Biggest lie told by a broker ?

Boat brokers and used car salesmen are the same. If the words "Trust me you won't find a better (boat/car) for the money" comes out of their mouths, run don't walk. The biggest problem in either sale is that they are not just selling a product, they are playing with your dreams and emotions. All buyers are potential marks or suckers.
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Old 03-05-2013, 13:42   #32
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Re: Biggest lie told by a broker ?

I met one that said early on that he "sells dreams".

Nice guy really.

But I was told the boat had a year warranty (6 mos. post splash at the time). But not that it was only for the original owner.

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Old 03-05-2013, 13:47   #33
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Re: Biggest lie told by a broker ?

I would not pay a dime for any travel unless the seller/broker first sent me a TON of pictures.
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Old 03-05-2013, 13:48   #34
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When I bought my current boat, I made the decision not to have my own broker. The reason is two fold: any offer I made was twice as attractive to the listing broker because he did not have to split the commission with a buyers broker, he or she could represent both sides of the deal. I also did not want someone putting pressure on me to pull the trigger if I wanted to move slowly or did not find what I wanted.

I met several along the way and some seemed like very honest trustworthy people, and some didn't.
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Old 03-05-2013, 14:01   #35
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Re: Biggest lie told by a broker ?

When I was looking at my present boat, I emailed the broker- John Lawson, that I was interested. I'm in Philly and the boat was in New Bedford Ma, he said - before you become too interested and think of flying up here let me send the recent insurance survey, the boat had issues! He was totally honest with me-I brought the boat and I believe it was a fair price and the dealings went very very smooth.

Also this was my third boat purchase, the boat before I had an idiot broker and surveyor.

Some are very good, some bad just like car salesman, brought a used car last year from a reputable dealer- big PIA!
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Re: Biggest lie told by a broker ?

How about biggest lie TO a broker?
" I've replaced every thing recently" (ie: over the last 10 years and then cruised around the world!)
or " hmm... always worked great for me, must have sat too long.."
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Old 03-05-2013, 15:03   #37
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Re: Biggest lie told by a broker ?

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When i was 25ish I was a broker for a year. I loved the job, I got to talk boats, crawl around boats, sail boats. It was awesome :-). But I had to quit cause I was so tired of the general " used car salesman" atmosphere. Maybe that is just the way it is in sales, but it wore me down.

My favorite broker moment was when I told my customer, a rich guy( son of a politician) that if he didn't appreciate the boat he just sea trialed, he didn't deserve to buy her. I don't think he was used to being talk to like that. I was serious, that boat, a swan, was not about air conditioning or shower stall, she is all about sailing. My bosses we so mad at me, but dagnabbit, it was a 1969 swan 36 in 35 knots of wind, if that didn't cause a religious experience you were just dead!

He ended up buying that boat, years later a friend was married aboard her. My friend said the owner takes her out weekly, he ended up being a good match for the swan, and just might deserve her

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Have bought a few and sold a few. Straight up brokers without problems. Most recently purchased a project - brokerage people could not have been more helpful. Obviously just wanted all parties to come out clean from a difficult situation. Still good relationship with previous brokers - and would take any future sales back to them. Lucky I guess but I knew what I was doing in all events with few illusions.
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Broker: The whole top of the engine was rebuilt, new valves, etc.


Me: gee that was great work... The mechanic was able to do all that and match the original paint and even give the paint on the nuts that 30 year old look.

Ps engine also blew a ton of white smoke at 80% throttle..... Think mosquito control
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Re: Biggest lie told by a broker ?

I'm reluctant to supply the name of the brokerage firm because I understand they have fired the guy who was involved in the long distance fiasco I described and don't want to unfairly smear the brokerage firm for one bad apple. They actually have a good rep and represent a line of high end powerboats. They also hired me for a number of deliveries over the years. He's probably moved on to be a mortgage broker or some other trustworthy line of work. Cheers, Phil
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Re: Biggest lie told by a broker ?

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Me: gee that was great work... The mechanic was able to do all that and match the original paint and even give the paint on the nuts that 30 year old look.
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They call that a French rebuild...
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Re: Biggest lie told by a broker ?

Some variation of "I don't know", including wilful ignorance.
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Old 04-05-2013, 03:36   #43
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Re: Biggest lie told by a broker ?

we all now how to tell when any salesmans telling lies,his lips are moving.but dont blame the salesman for trying just be fully aware its up to yourself to make a good deal or walk away . remember its your money spend it wisely.on saying that is buying a boat a wise thing to do ,but we all keep on doing it.
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Had brokers at Seahorse marine in fl not even present my more than fair offers to the customer. They lied about it , they just tried to get more money , I walked. Had a second boat i was just as interested in. The owner was so confused that i walked when we were so close in price he found my home number and called me himself. When i explained my offer was more than fair and top of my budget he said they had only said i was thinking of making an offer. He said he will fire the broker give them their split out if their own pocket and sell to me at my first offer. I said sorry already have a contract signed on boat number2 here it is almost a year later and his is still for sale at guess what, less than i originally offered.
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...he said they had only said i was thinking of making an offer.
He should be suing that brokerage for breach of contract.
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