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Gadagirl · 30-12-2015, 16:00

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Originally Posted by SV THIRD DAY

To the contrary...I think it was answered....We Won't.

Are you going to ask Joe Q Public to have a smaller house?
Use less heating oil in the NE?
Not have two gas guzzling cars?
Not buy **** they don't need?

Our 70% driven consumer "buy crap" economy would collapse and there would be riots in the street my friend if we actually made the changes needed to fight off this "Climate Change" boogie man, akin in many ways to the BS "War on Terror". They are both memes used to push the population in a direction the masterminds think it needs to go in, for both their political power and gain. You don't really think the USA couldn't destroy ISIS before noon tomorrow if they really wanted to...but it's more fun to arm them and have a Proxy war with Russia in Syria...I digress...

Likewise
If CO2 was really Destroying the World then the problem is the "Fix" will certainly destroy it also. That's the Rub isn't it...it either isn't destroying the world or we want it to for political gain and power.

Humanity will do what Humanity always does what Evolution has always done as well for that matter. We will react and "change" when we have absolutely No Choice. Just look at History to confirm this about Humanity. It's unrealistic to think otherwise.

Look the USA is Bankrupt..but do we fix it and stop the spending? Nope again it's too painful for the crack addict to stop, the system has to melt down and then the needed change will be forced upon the USA. Not advocateing for it or saying it will be fun...but you-all know it's true. Not enough people will give up their Free handouts/stuff to save the system, so it has to, must collapse to be fixed. This is the same way with MMGW, even if it IS True...that doesn't matter because man/humanity doesn't care, and history backs me up on this. Humanity won't care until their cable TV or internet goes out and they can't follow the latest from Kim Kardashian or see their latest episode of the Walking Dead.

A harsh view of the world you say?
No....more like a realistic one based on the whole of human History.

Have to agree with you on the human nature aspect. People, generally, aren't willing to give up any comforts they've gained, let alone a penny of wealth or how they gained it. I can only hope that through innovation wealth accumulation will be more aligned towards the new innovations that might improve our environment.

**Don C L** · 30-12-2015, 16:08

Yeah I'd rather talk about boats and places too, but like a moth to a flame, here I am. I think sea-level rise is the least of our worries, but it is the only one that gets much air time.

Gadagirl · 30-12-2015, 16:11

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Originally Posted by scuba0_1

Look up a world pollution map. We're not the world polluters but we are charged as if we are and believers take it as fact and listen to other world governments tell us what we should do. What a joke this hole thing has become.

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Pollution output may/is higher in India, China, South America, Asia....but you have to admit it's partly due to corporations based in Western countries shifting their production to nations that have little or no restrictions on pollution to avoid costs. Profits from that pollution lead right back home to us.

Gadagirl · 30-12-2015, 16:23

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Originally Posted by Lake-Effect

#3...

I'm heading over to a climate forum to see if anyone wants to talk about boats.

Pelagic · 30-12-2015, 16:37

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Originally Posted by thinwater

And not a single reply addressed the question: how will we adapt globally.

I can't speak for other's or solve their concerns, but I believe the logical solution is to Live Off the Grid, which will naturally encourage you to become more energy efficient.

That way you are self sufficient if Utilities collapse and with a live aboard option, you have some wriggle room to move.... if the natives get restless

Terra Nova · 30-12-2015, 16:41

And we're supposed to feel guilty about global warming?

Delancey · 30-12-2015, 18:19

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Originally Posted by Terra Nova

And we're supposed to feel guilty about global warming?

What's the cheapest you can remember paying per board foot of teak?

Terra Nova · 30-12-2015, 18:34

What's Nagasaki and teak prices have to do with each other?

Delancey · 30-12-2015, 18:47

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Originally Posted by Terra Nova

What's Nagasaki and teak prices have to do with each other?

Can't decide who is more to blame for environmental degradation, the greatest generation or the baby boomers? My guess is the boomers but really the greatest set the stage.

Anyhell, teak ain't getting any cheaper. That's for sure.

conachair · 30-12-2015, 19:07

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Originally Posted by Reefmagnet

Humans will adapt fine.

How do you know?
We've only been around for a few milliseconds, plus the reason we're all so globally genetically identical is that we've been right on the edge of extinction already.

Reefmagnet · 30-12-2015, 19:17

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Originally Posted by conachair

How do you know?
We've only been around for a few milliseconds, plus the reason we're all so globally genetically identical is that we've been right on the edge of extinction already.

Hmm, let me see....

I know, we've been around for 1 million years or so, so far, which has included a couple of fairly major climate events already. You might have heard of "the ice age", by chance?

What makes you so sure we wont?

conachair · 30-12-2015, 19:21

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Originally Posted by Reefmagnet

Hmm, let me see....

I know, we've been around for 1 million years or so, so far, which has included a couple of fairly major climate events already. You might have heard of "the ice age", by chance?

What makes you so sure we wont?

Exactly, a few milliseconds and already been right at the edge of extinction.

Where did I say I'm sure of anything? It's you that thinks you can see into the future, I don't know.

**StuM** · 30-12-2015, 19:21

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Originally Posted by conachair

How do you know?
We've only been around for a few milliseconds, plus the reason we're all so globally genetically identical is that we've been right on the edge of extinction already.

And we share 98% of our genes with chimpanzees and 92% with mice. Your point is?

Reefmagnet · 30-12-2015, 19:24

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Originally Posted by conachair

Exactly, a few milliseconds and already been right at the edge of extinction.

Where did I say I'm sure of anything? It's you that thinks you can see into the future, I don't know.

Then kindly regale us of story of the human race being on the edge of extinction. I must of missed that in history class.