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Old 27-07-2014, 16:00   #31
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The point I am trying to make is that electronics are making people believe that as long as they follow the line on a plotter they will be fine. Get your heads out of your rears and learn the rules of the road and how to navigate by other means than a computer. They forces of mother nature and they other guy that wont move from his line on his computer is what will be your demise.
Amelia Erhart and Noonan were using CN - I bet they would have loved to have gps.

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Let us not forget the rare youngster that comes along and exceeds the skill set of parents and other adults in their chosen endeavor.

Laura Dekker.
I just watched both Dekkers and Abbie's movies on Netflix. The contrast in how comfortable Dekker was on the boat vs. Abbie was striking.
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Old 27-07-2014, 16:06   #32
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For that matter when I was 17 I had a private pilots license and about 100 hours.
Same w one of my friends from HS + he was in the Civil Air Patrol

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Laura Dekker.
Laura Dekker didnt do it for the media.
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Laura Dekker didnt do it for the media.
I know that. She is just a sailing junkie.
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climbing mt.everest is no big deal anymore if you have the money for the permits. aluminum ladders are left everywhere required and as long as you where your oxygen you basically just walk to the top while hired sherpas carry your gear. be prepared to pay is all or you cant get a permit.met people who have done it. what is more interesting to me is the number of private plain crashes you never hear about. pilots who buy planes later on in life like Kennedy did then take people on their last flight. no instrument experience etc is lethal.much more dangerious than any boat or vehicle.and most are never in the media cause the name aint kennedy .fairwinds and godspeed.
This has got to be one of the most simplistic and silliest statements I have ever heard about this achievement of climbing Everest.
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Anyone know what type plane they were in? If memory serves me correctly Amelia Ehrhardt's grand daughter just completed a circumnavigation in a very nice TBM 750.

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Was this "Grand Daughter" from one of her stepsons? Because she herself never had any children.
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Was this "Grand Daughter" from one of her stepsons? Because she herself never had any children.
She states that she has no blood connection to AE.
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Re: Another "Youngest" Record Challange Dies...

Jessica Watson was another of the "youngest RTW" crowd
Not wishing to denigrate her achievements - what she did was undoubtedly remarkable, and she sure seems like a nice kid, but what she didn't do was sail around the world. There is quite a clear definition of what constitutes sailing around the world, and what she did wasn't it. But "youngest girl to sail 97.6% round the world" doesn't sound so good
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Amelia Erhart and Noonan were using CN - I bet they would have loved to have gps.



I just watched both Dekkers and Abbie's movies on Netflix. The contrast in how comfortable Dekker was on the boat vs. Abbie was striking.
I just watched Laura's movie a few days ago and really enjoyed it. Especially the storms, I wish there was more footage of that part of the sailing. I am actually a man vs nature kind of guy when it comes to the weather so I enjoy that. No not in a reckless manner I just get thrilled by weather and being in it weather it's a ocean squall or a tornado coming thru town...hey we all have silly weaknesses...when I lived in Iowa I figured hey if I am going to get killed by a tornado I want to at least see it.

What is Abbie's movie? I'd like to watch that.
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What is Abbie's movie? I'd like to watch that.
Wild Eyes: The Abby Sunderland Story (2011) - IMDb

The contrast is striking. Abby was very dependent on the shore crew and unfortunately way too dependent (IMO) on electronics (autopilots) - I also got more of a sense that the "adventure" was more designed from the start to be a commercial venture rather than doing it for the love of sailing.
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Single engine plane. No redundancy. Sad end.

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Jessica Watson was another of the "youngest RTW" crowd
Not wishing to denigrate her achievements - what she did was undoubtedly remarkable, and she sure seems like a nice kid, but what she didn't do was sail around the world. There is quite a clear definition of what constitutes sailing around the world, and what she did wasn't it. But "youngest girl to sail 97.6% round the world" doesn't sound so good
G'Day Patrick,

Well, I dunno... the definition that you are (I think) referring to was established by some arbitrary group who have said that they are the authority. I suspect that they were folks from old Blighty who, due to their unfortunate location on the globe must sail a hell of a long way south before rounding the Capes and getting on with their aim of circumnavigating. It gets up their nose that others live in more convenient places (and with better wx, too), so they threw in some arbitrary dodges in the route to keep out the riff-raff. Since those same folks don't now recognize age as part of recognizing records, it is of little importance what route she sailed, even to the record books.

Jessica set out from the East coast of Oz, she kept sailing until she got back to the East coast of Oz, she crossed the equator... good enough for me. Honestly, I don't care at all for the frenzy of attention that stunt sailors court, no matter what their age, gender, race, physical disabilities, planetary origin or choice of music might be. If they accomplish a noteworthy voyage, good on 'em, if they fail, I hope that they enjoyed the trip up to that point. But I'm not likely to buy the brand of cereal that is on their mainsail logo, or whatever.

Cheers and enjoy the big high that looms over Tassie just now!

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Single engine plane. No redundancy. Sad end.

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They say that the second engine is there to propel you to the scene of the crash.

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Yes followed by the saying with a twin engine you have twice as many things to go wrong!
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Well said Jim , they claim Drake as first I wonder did they check his route.
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