Key West Liveaboards

sanssouci · 24-09-2009, 15:08

I would like to start a group of liveaboards in Key West that plan sailing to Cuba.

Greenflash35 · 24-09-2009, 16:08

How about starting the Cuba Sail with the Wrecker's Race, just keep on going ?

sanssouci · 25-09-2009, 16:14

Sounds like a good way to start a race, wonder what the weather will be?

lorenzo b · 25-09-2009, 15:49

Hope to be in Key West in two months and would love to go to Cuba.

Jentine · 25-09-2009, 15:55

What is the current official government position concerning cruising in Cuba? I would love to go but I would also like to be able to come back to the US without the prospect of losing my boat or going to jail.

sanssouci · 25-09-2009, 16:17

What is your nationality?

denverd0n · 28-09-2009, 14:40

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Originally Posted by Jentine

What is the current official government position concerning cruising in Cuba?

Visits to Cuba are only allowed for U.S. citizens who have relatives there, or who are on some sort of educational, medical, or relief mission specifically approved by the State Department. In either case, you must get permission from the State Department prior to going.

That's if you want to be legal. Of course, there are people who don't mind breaking the rules and if you are smart about it the chances of getting caught are negligibly small.

sanssouci · 25-09-2009, 16:15

Give me a call when you get down here.

sanssouci · 25-09-2009, 17:45

I would sure like to have trawler like yours for SE Alaska, want to trade

lorenzo b · 25-09-2009, 18:51

Born in Spain, German parents, US citizen, lived for 30 yrs in Manhattan then 30 yrs in SF last 2 yrs in La. getting my boat ready

Cheechako · 28-09-2009, 14:53

I had always understood that it was OK to go to Cuba, but not OK to spend any money while there....?

GordMay · 29-09-2009, 05:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cheechako

I had always understood that it was OK to go to Cuba, but not OK to spend any money while there....?

See the “Overview of the Cuban Assets Control Regulations” or Title 31 Part 515 of the U.S. Code of Federal Regulations

Overview ➥ http://www.ustreas.gov/offices/enfor.../cuba/cuba.pdf

sanssouci · 29-09-2009, 11:12

Thats what I understand also.

GordMay · 29-09-2009, 12:54

I may as well remain mute; as the dumb would rather remain blind, choosing to accept single sentence “I always understood” advice from anonymous strangers, than go to the source of complex & changing regulations; dude.

Although the government of Cuba permits U.S. citizens to visit, the U.S. itself restricts its citizens from travelling there, except with a license issued by the Treasury Department's Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC). The specific restriction (to which Cheechako alludes) is against spending money in Cuba, however U.S. authorities consider any visit of more than one day to be prima facie proof that one has spent money there. However, the U.S. Government is arbitrary about how it interprets its rules and who it issues licenses to.

According to April 2004, Congressional testimony by OFAC, Between 1990 and 2003 it opened just 93 enforcement investigations related to terrorism and collected just $9,425 in fines for terrorism financing violations since 1994.

In contrast, OFAC opened 10,683 enforcement investigations since 1990 for possible violations of the long-standing economic embargo against Fidel Castro's regime, and collected more than $8 million in fines since 1994, mostly from people who sent money to, did business with or traveled to Cuba without permission.

At the end of 2003, OFAC had just 4 full-time employees dedicated to investigating Ousama Bin Ladin's and Sadam Hussien's wealth, while nearly two dozen were working on the terrorism of Cuban embargo violation.

For the official word on US policies goto ➥ http

Hurricane Harry · 29-09-2009, 07:13

Id like to go also. I need a some notice Im a bit out of the way. Unless someone wants some dead weight onboard./ Harry

24-09-2009, 15:08	#1
sanssouci Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Key West, Florida Boat: DUFOUR 12000 CT - 45' - SANS SOUCI Posts: 38	Key West Liveaboards I would like to start a group of liveaboards in Key West that plan sailing to Cuba.

25-09-2009, 15:55	#5
Jentine Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Massachusetts Boat: Beneteau 393, "Blackthorn" Posts: 564	What is the current official government position concerning cruising in Cuba? I would love to go but I would also like to be able to come back to the US without the prospect of losing my boat or going to jail. __________________ Jim We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." --Aristotle

29-09-2009, 12:54	#14
GordMay Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario - 48-29N x 89-20W Boat: C.L.O.D. (Cruiser Living On Dirt) Posts: 12,582	I may as well remain mute; as the dumb would rather remain blind, choosing to accept single sentence “I always understood” advice from anonymous strangers, than go to the source of complex & changing regulations; dude. Although the government of Cuba permits U.S. citizens to visit, the U.S. itself restricts its citizens from travelling there, except with a license issued by the Treasury Department's Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC). The specific restriction (to which Cheechako alludes) is against spending money in Cuba, however U.S. authorities consider any visit of more than one day to be prima facie proof that one has spent money there. However, the U.S. Government is arbitrary about how it interprets its rules and who it issues licenses to. According to April 2004, Congressional testimony by OFAC, Between 1990 and 2003 it opened just 93 enforcement investigations related to terrorism and collected just $9,425 in fines for terrorism financing violations since 1994. In contrast, OFAC opened 10,683 enforcement investigations since 1990 for possible violations of the long-standing economic embargo against Fidel Castro's regime, and collected more than $8 million in fines since 1994, mostly from people who sent money to, did business with or traveled to Cuba without permission. At the end of 2003, OFAC had just 4 full-time employees dedicated to investigating Ousama Bin Ladin's and Sadam Hussien's wealth, while nearly two dozen were working on the terrorism of Cuban embargo violation. For the official word on US policies goto ➥ http __________________ Gord May ~~_/)_~~ (Gord & Maggie - "Southbound") "If you didn't have time/$ to do it right in the first place, when will you get the time/$ to fix it?"

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24-09-2009, 16:08	#2
Greenflash35 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Cruising Atlantic USA Boat: Ericson 35 Posts: 11	How about starting the Cuba Sail with the Wrecker's Race, just keep on going ?

25-09-2009, 16:14	#3
sanssouci Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Key West, Florida Boat: DUFOUR 12000 CT - 45' - SANS SOUCI Posts: 38	Sounds like a good way to start a race, wonder what the weather will be?

25-09-2009, 15:49	#4
lorenzo b Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Louisiana Boat: Steel trawler 63' Eileen Farrell Posts: 166	Hope to be in Key West in two months and would love to go to Cuba.

25-09-2009, 16:17	#6
sanssouci Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Key West, Florida Boat: DUFOUR 12000 CT - 45' - SANS SOUCI Posts: 38	What is your nationality?

25-09-2009, 16:15	#8
sanssouci Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Key West, Florida Boat: DUFOUR 12000 CT - 45' - SANS SOUCI Posts: 38	Give me a call when you get down here.

25-09-2009, 17:45	#9
sanssouci Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Key West, Florida Boat: DUFOUR 12000 CT - 45' - SANS SOUCI Posts: 38	I would sure like to have trawler like yours for SE Alaska, want to trade

25-09-2009, 18:51	#10
lorenzo b Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Louisiana Boat: Steel trawler 63' Eileen Farrell Posts: 166	Born in Spain, German parents, US citizen, lived for 30 yrs in Manhattan then 30 yrs in SF last 2 yrs in La. getting my boat ready

28-09-2009, 14:53	#11
Cheechako Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Skagit City, WA Boat: Fellippi 32 Posts: 2,205	I had always understood that it was OK to go to Cuba, but not OK to spend any money while there....?

29-09-2009, 11:12	#13
sanssouci Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Key West, Florida Boat: DUFOUR 12000 CT - 45' - SANS SOUCI Posts: 38	Thats what I understand also.

29-09-2009, 07:13	#15
Hurricane Harry Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sweden westcoast Boat: Allegro 33 Posts: 100	Id like to go also. I need a some notice Im a bit out of the way. Unless someone wants some dead weight onboard./ Harry