Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 10-04-2011, 23:29   #31
Ita
Registered User
 
Ita's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Miami, FL
Boat: CAL 29
Posts: 143
Re: Where to Liveaboard in Miami ?

My draft is 4'6" and I have no problems, as long as I don't go close to the bridge at low tide , my deep sounder is fried so I don't know about the access, if you want we can go on my dinghy with line and lead...
there's one deep slip available, the marina is located at SE 8Th st, behind the 4 Ambassadors building, on the south side of Brickell Key bridge.
If you need more information contact me at marchwf(at)hotmail dotcom
__________________

__________________
Ita is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2011, 23:35   #32
Registered User

Join Date: Nov 2010
Boat: Island Packet
Posts: 17
I would check out Grove Isle Marina. I believe they have some slips to rent.
__________________

__________________
Sailing320 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30-11-2011, 15:28   #33
Registered User

Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Belize/ NY
Boat: FP Venzia 42" Catamaran
Posts: 6
Re: Where to Liveaboard in Miami ?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sailing320 View Post
I would check out Grove Isle Marina. I believe they have some slips to rent.
where is Grove Isle Marina? Do the y have a web site etc
__________________
Capt Mark
katkandu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30-11-2011, 17:37   #34
Moderator
 
Hudson Force's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Lived aboard & cruised for 45 years,- now on a chair in my walk-in closet.
Boat: Morgan OI 413 1973 - Aythya
Posts: 7,894
Images: 1
Re: Where to Liveaboard in Miami ?

Quote:
Originally Posted by osirissail View Post
................ Florida makes most of its money off "snow birds" or transients so is quite adept at facilitating your needs - for a price..........................
As I noticed that this statement was quoted from this source in a later post by Hellosailor, I thought it should be noted that the great majority of the Florida Department of Revenue funds are gained from sales and use taxes that are not collected differentially from tourist and residents. Certainly, Florida gains much by tourism, but state residents continue to far outnumber tourists and state residents pay a far greater amount of the taxes funding the state. 'just to steer us toward the truth.
__________________
Take care and joy, Aythya crew
Hudson Force is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30-11-2011, 22:12   #35
Registered User

Join Date: Nov 2010
Boat: Island Packet
Posts: 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by katkandu
where is Grove Isle Marina? Do the y have a web site etc
www.groveisle.com. If you call the hotel ask for the dock master. If you google earth the address you will see the marina. The slips are privately owned and their are always some for rent.
__________________
Sailing320 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2011, 14:29   #36
֍֎֍֎֍֎֍֎֍֎

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 13,056
Re: Where to Live Aboard in Miami ?

Aythya-
"funds are gained from sales and use taxes that are not collected differentially from tourist and residents."
Not a complete picture. Suppose you own property, and as a result pay property taxes. Well that's fair, you use police and fire and school services. Except, if you're a Florida resident you can file for a homestead exemption, and even though you are using all those services 24x7x365, you pay lots less than someone who just comes down for a few months, and doesn't consume the same services.
See now? The snowbirds can't vote, so they can't have a say in the matter. The residents do indeed give themselves a discount on property taxes.
And then of course, like most toursit destinations, there are whopping huge taxes added to car rentals, hotel bills, and all sorts of other things.
Sales tax is only one part of the larger picture.

And Florida is also well known for their choice of no state income tax, at the expense of low state services. Poor public transit systems. And last year, they were amazed to find that after putting up guardrails between the turnpike and the drainage canals that parallel most of it, the drowning rate from highway accidents went down. Imagine that...you take tax money, use it for a safety program, and fewer people die.

Hey, low taxes and low public services is a perfectly valid choice. As as dimpled chads, which BOTH parties in Florida were perfectly aware of and in complete acceptance of, until a certain election. Them damned Yankees, flocking down and trying to create a middle class, they just ruin eveyrthing for the po folk (by driving prices up for real estate and housing and raising taxes when they demand services) and the rich folk alike, because the super-rich certainly don't want to pay more money for the po folk, or waste it on taxes for, haha, the hoi poloi seeking things like public transporation. The po folk can walk, the rich folk have chauffers, those damn troublemakers in the middle class...they just ruin it for everyone.

I think "no taxes, no services" is a perfectly valid choice. And if the middle class would only stop complaining and sending politicians and cops off to criminal court...It's that damned middle class again, making trouble for everyone.
__________________
hellosailor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2011, 17:02   #37
Senior Cruiser
 
osirissail's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: A real life Zombie from FL
Boat: Gulfstar 53 - Osiris
Posts: 5,416
Images: 2
Re: Where to Live Aboard in Miami ?

I have been living and residing in Florida off and on for 69 years except for some periods of time living elsewhere in the world and on the boat cruising the world - my mother is a "Florida Cracker."

- - So the tax load on "residents" is quite low, which I certain like - but the tax load on "tourists" (which can include a lot of "snow-birds") is really high. There are more than 13 specific "tourist" taxes listed by the State Department of Revenue. And most are from 1/2% or 1% on up to 5% each - cumulative. Where you find these taxes is mostly on top of Hotel/resort/ and short term rental bills.
- - I have friends who work the hotels, etc. and the taxes are typically as much as 25% of the bill. And if you try to rent a little apartment or house for "short term" these taxes apply, if you rent for "long term" they do not.
- - I am actually in favor of the system from pretty much a selfish viewpoint as getting "foreigners" (anybody who is not a Florida resident) to finance the State seems a good idea to me.
- - You just have to be careful as a visiting cruiser to watch out for the "short term/long term" classifications if you temporarily move ashore while working on your boat.
__________________
osirissail is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-02-2013, 22:46   #38
Registered User

Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Long Island, New york
Boat: morgan 38
Posts: 34
Re: Where to Live Aboard in Miami ?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon D View Post
Florida has no state income tax and no other state based taxes. You will have to pay sales tax on stuff you buy, register the boat there [cause you are there longer than 90 days, register you cars maybe, but no big dollars unless you never paid any sales tax on your boat when you bought it. When we 'moved' to FL changing the boat registration [yes we are documented] was a few hundred dollars as we could prove paid the sales tax in MD back when we bought the boat. All in all no big deal. And the benefit of being a FL resident if you decide that's the way to go is no state income tax
Hello Jon, what is acceptable proof that you paid sales tax in your state if you're not a Fla resident, do you know?
__________________

__________________
oceansong1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
miami

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Why Did You Decide to Live Aboard ? kcmarcet Our Community 62 03-04-2016 10:53
How Do You Live Aboard ? A Game We Can All Learn from . . . Tori Liveaboard's Forum 83 14-01-2012 20:06
Desire to Live Aboard in San Diego Sageman Pacific & South China Sea 1 18-11-2011 09:06
Any Info About Ventura Live Aboard Slips ? Scottyincosta Meets & Greets 14 10-09-2011 11:52
Live Aboard Fearnow Multihull Sailboats 32 06-09-2011 22:21



Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 15:11.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.