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View Poll Results: What state is best for liveaboard sailors?
Florida 23 31.51%
Texas 12 16.44%
California 5 6.85%
North Carolina 3 4.11%
New York 0 0%
Louisiana 3 4.11%
Washington 6 8.22%
Maryland 3 4.11%
Massachusetts 1 1.37%
Other 17 23.29%
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Old 24-07-2013, 16:25   #46
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everyone move to kali--land of fruits nuts flakes and fascism....rodlmao...and 38 f winter days in storms..loved it ....is cold and it is damp. and donot forget inflation...and health care--egads...

better places are puerto rico and mexico

well--pr is almost like a state and mexico used to own kali--so it counts.
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Old 24-07-2013, 16:33   #47
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zeehag, remember that PR is a war prize. It can be bought and sold, Congress could trade it to the Saudis for a big bucket of oil. The "natives" may get a big surprise one day. But like Cali, there's serious talk about a formal PR bankruptcy as well.

And of course Mexico has a drug cartel problem that makes our late Prohibition seem like a minor disruption. Then too, if you're a gringo trying to buy land there to actually live on? Uhuh, there are strict limits on where and how you can do that, too. Great economy if you're in the drug business, not so great according to a great many others.

All the Puerto Ricans who literally fled to the US mainland in search of work and decided to stay there, says something about how and who can live in PR. Maybe if enough retirees migrate there and remember to vote...before Congress sells it? :-)
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Old 24-07-2013, 16:46   #48
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Re: What State is Best for Liveaboard Sailors?

Coastline of the United States | Infoplease.com is a site where you can compare miles of coastline of different states.

Of interest to us living in Hawaii is that we have so very few marinas and boat ramps with so many miles of coastline.
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Old 24-07-2013, 17:04   #49
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Let's see the exodus begin! Please, people, California is highly over-rated. Move on! Nothing here to see.....
Yeah.

And we have earthquakes.

And debris from the Japanese tsunami.

And the biggest lee shore on the planet.

And fog.

More to Oregon! They're practically giving away slips up there.
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Old 24-07-2013, 17:13   #50
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but, hello, mexico is friendly --the violencia is much improved with this one and different regime--havent head nearly as much gunfire as before the election.....they enjoy their ability to eat and feed their kids in summer--they are nice to tourists, which is where we are in food chain here...
pr wont be sold to anyone who isnt a friendly, besides i have a boat--i can always move. unless i make runaway diesel again....i been to pr and loved it ---

mexico is far more civilized than is usa, in many ways.
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zeehag, remember that PR is a war prize. It can be bought and sold, Congress could trade it to the Saudis for a big bucket of oil. ..............................
Hmm.......... 'interesting thought, but then California was a "war prize" too!
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Monroe county is now offering "free We Come to You Pump out services!!"
We have used them for a month now and they are great!!!
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Force, was the Bear Republic all a myth? I thought Cali was an independent republic that voluntarily joined into the US, very different from how we literally took PR.
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I have lived aboard in RI and both coasts of Florida. I would say that the west coast of Florida edges out RI and they both leave Miami and Fort Lauderdale behind. I love some aspects of south Florida, but the cost of boat ownership in those waters is just too much for my wallet to bare.
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I have lived aboard in RI and both coasts of Florida. I would say that the west coast of Florida edges out RI and they both leave Miami and Fort Lauderdale behind. I love some aspects of south Florida, but the cost of boat ownership in those waters is just too much for my wallet to bare.
Similar experience. Bought my boat in NY and initially kept it moored in Bristol RI. Just too cheap to pay what a marina charged in the area. Stayed there until mid August and moved to Essex CT where I anchored out. Same reason. Decided to head south to FL or GA for the winter so a couple of friends flew up to CT to join me for the trip south. Thought it would be convenient to get a slip for a few days while loading crew, luggage and supplies for the trip. Cheapest marina I found for +/- 40 miles was $120/night plus taxes, fees, water, electric. I had stayed in a nice local motel with HBO, kitchenette, free wifi and maid service for $80/night. I (tactfully) pointed that out to the owner plus the fact that his marina was half empty and offered to pay him the same for a week. He turned it down so I stayed on the hook.

New England is a great place to cruise but if you want to go, bring your big wallet.
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I know more of the East Coast US than the Pacific Coast and I notice more selections for Florida on the East Coast; however, it's worth notice that the coast of Florida extends for about 1,200 miles. There are many different "Floridas" over these many miles spanning the differences between South Beach, Miami and wilderness isolation. Inexpensive small towns with beautiful marinas for less than $500/month for slip, utilities & amenities; $1,200/month slips next to glitzy tourist tiki bars (ca 40' boat). Only the Chesapeake rivals the variety of opportunity and I'd include Maine too, if it were not for the winter. I'm enjoying cruising the Chesapeake now, but I'll be back to Florida and ports south by winter! ......it's just difficult for me to refer to Florida as one place for living aboard. There's little similarity between the St. Johns River, Biscayne Bay and Pensacola.
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I say summers in Michigan winters in Puerto Rico. Both inexpensive if you anchor. I suggest 2 boats stored in off season.
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You can't go wrong with Texas; Port Aransas, Kemah/Seabrook (Houston).

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Hmm.......... 'interesting thought, but then California was a "war prize" too!
As was Delaware, New York, Maryland, Pennsylvania, Virginia, all of Europe....
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Force, was the Bear Republic all a myth? I thought Cali was an independent republic that voluntarily joined into the US, very different from how we literally took PR.
Yeah, pretty much a myth as no functional provisional government was ever formed during those 28 days and with no recognition by any other nation including the US who occupied the area during the Mexican-American War without any official interaction with a "California Republic". My thought was with Bash in making the point that all our lands are "war prizes" and there's no unique status for Puerto Rico in this regard.

...... but back to the topic of "best state for livingaboard". When I recently toured the California coast from north of Eureka down to San Francisco, looking for signs of liveaboard/crusing communities, there was little to report north of San Francisco. Eureka and Fort Bragg seemed to have inlets with potential, but the liveaboard presence was thin. I had thought that there might be more in Tomales Bay, but there was little to speak of there too and very shoal water depths for most of the area. It's a forbidding coastline and the inlets that are available can become dangerous with little option for protection.
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