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Old 15-01-2016, 21:50   #1
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What one or two items would you ...

I have several good friends that have taken off ahead of us, alas we are still 8-10 months from there, and posed this question to them after a few months,if someone asked you what one or two things would you say made a big difference in you experiences. And yes I know this is a loaded question and what one persons idea is not another's. Do you say it is the water maker? The hi dollar rice cooker? What do you feel make the biggest difference to you?



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Old 16-01-2016, 14:09   #2
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Our greatest savings are associated with our ability to live well anchored out without paying for dockage. This requires:

1- Transportation to shore access with a good dinghy & outboard. 'should be capable of transporting crew, laundry, water, groceries, bicycles, etc. ....though, not all at once!

2- The ability to store or produce water and food for a few week's supply.

3- The ability to produce sufficient 12DC & 110VAC for your needs.

4- A supply of tools, parts, fasteners, adhesives, sealants for basic maintenance and some knowledge for their use.

5- We also need a toy and entertainment cache. ...books, kayaks, swim/snorkeling gear, books, musical instruments, a DVD collection....

I will admit the we do spend some spans of time at marina docks, but we live on far less when anchored out.

Sorry, I could not pin it down to one or two items!

ALERT! Edit for stupid! I looked back at your post and realized you asked for differnces in "experiences" and not "expenses"! Ah, well, .... my answer still stands.
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a good mattress
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Old 16-01-2016, 17:16   #4
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Double preventers for the boom.
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Re: What one or two items would you ...

This is a good and difficult question.

I think there are several things which I need or I would even go off cruising. This may sound either spoiled or prudent. I couldn't limit this to two. Not in order of importance:

Good dink and motor
Up to date charts and electronics... including radar and AIS etc. high seas radio
large batts, alternate source and smart charging, electric monitor
Autopilot
Electric windlass with chain, spare anchor and rode
Hot water, refrigerator and a cabin heater (not important in tropics)
Life raft, drogue
Lots of spares and tools and pumps
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Easy sail handling and reefing gear.
A watermaker.
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Re: What one or two items would you ...

I'll take a different tack: a well-found boat and a mindful state of being present.
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Re: What one or two items would you ...

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......a mindful state of being present.
I'm afraid I don't know what that actually means.

Anyway, for us, it's the watermaker. Being able to simply not worry about water makes such a big difference.
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Definitely chocolate...paper charts/cruising guides, watermaker and a level head on your shoulders, sailing is easy, til it's not...(+1 Gamayun)
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Re: What one or two items would you ...

I asked this not to limit the discussion but to see a different point of view. Below is from a buddy on mind out cruising right now and yea it's not just one or two. ---
Thinking about your question to me several months ago - what's the most important thing on the boat and all.
So, here is my final answer. All of it!
I'd start with the basics - rub rail is really important; fenders are as well...then I'd go to just about everything related to ground tackle X3....shackles, hooks, snubbers and chafe gear.
Then I'd move to power generation - solar, if no sun then wind, if neither then run the engine for the alternator. The inverter does the work and you do NOT need A/C
Then it's all about water. RO water sucks for drinking so why buy it? We use water collected from the rain, from the dingy after a rain storm, etc then put it in the tanks - works for cooking dishes and the shower!
Make water for drinking - it's an absolute must!!! Power is a must to run the watermaker and you've got to have ways to do that when its not sunny or windy. There's plenty of both, but there's long days in between.
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As I sit finishing projects he is loving exuma sound. And another friend in key west spend all night in the storm fighting a dragging anchor that has caused two sailboats and a 45 trawler to end up on the beach.
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you might want to read this thread

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......................... RO water sucks for drinking so why buy it? ..................
.............. Make water for drinking - it's an absolute must!!! Power is a must to run the watermaker .................
I enjoy the quality and information within your post, but there's one puzzlement. If someone is accustomed to the taste of minerals in their drinking water, then I can understand that they may not enjoy RO drinking water, but it is pure water and of good quality. You mention the benefits of a watermaker, but it's important to recognize that watermakers produce "RO" (reverse osmosis) water. If you're buying RO water or buying equipment to make RO water, it's really the same thing. The decision is whether you will be isolated from drinking water sources that make the watermakers economic.
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what one or two things would you say made a big difference in you experiences. What do you feel make the biggest difference to you?

I'd definitely rate my dingy at the top and enough money to enjoy our time on the boat and on shore second.
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+1 on having enough disposable income to enjoy shore when we want to. We bought a smaller boat than we could have to keep money for shore stuff and toys.
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Re: What one or two items would you ...

Not out there yet - we leave this spring. But we've given this a lot of thought. I expect the most important items are those that will allow us independence from shore (unless we want to in).

Leading a cruising life means (to us), being self-sufficient as far as it is possible. We do not want to be Thoreau at Walden Pond writing aobut how wonderful the self-sufficient life is and then be bringing our laundry into town to have the local women wash it. That is not self-sufficiency.

So our list has been

energy generation
water generation
dink/motor
food storage
food preparation (ability to store bigger propane tanks)
tools to fix what goes wrong (and spares)

Every cruiser will have a different approach to addressing the above issues.
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