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Old 15-04-2016, 13:47   #166
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Re: We are we seeing electric stove tops on blue water cruisers?

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what about a diesel cooktop?
A great solution with regard to safety and fuel compatibility.

Can also be used for heating -- a big plus.

Standard solution on high latitude fishing vessels.

Creates some challenges for venting, though, and they can be fiddly to get lit and stay running. Diesel smoke in the cabin is very unpleasant.


Wallas seems to have a new type:

Wallas | Boat stoves | Boat cooking | Diesel boat stoves | Paraffin boat stoves

Which might solve the problems mentioned. Anyone tried one of these? Could be terrific if it does what it promises.


EDIT: WOW! This really looks very cool indeed:

http://www.wallas-uk.com/diesel-hobs...rdic-85ndt-kit

I didn't know these existed. The flame is completely isolated from the cabin, so no smoke. The thing they've done is to make forced air burner, like Eber and Webasto, so it vents through a very thin pipe which is not hard to run.

This may be the best cooker of all. I can see only two downsides -- (1) will put heat into the cabin (not a downside for me); and (2) the burner will need maintenance.

And cost. And a hole in the deck, but it's a small one (not like the big holes you need for the flues of normal diesel stoves/heaters).


But if you did this for the cooktop, and had an electric convection oven/micro/grill for an oven, then you would need much less electrical power. And you get cabin heat in the bargain.
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Old 15-04-2016, 14:35   #167
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Re: We are we seeing electric stove tops on blue water cruisers?

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It happens, no doubt about it but it is rare. It certainly doesn't happen enough to justify the paranoia of some posters.
I was answering a question posed by the poster I quoted who could not find a boating accident with propane. I provided him with an example.

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Re: We are we seeing electric stove tops on blue water cruisers?



yes this is the type I was referring to. they've been around a few years now. popular in high end caravans from what I've seen
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Old 16-04-2016, 06:20   #169
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Re: We are we seeing electric stove tops on blue water cruisers?

I removed the generator from our FP Venezia years ago, it broke down constantly and I couldn't stand the noise. I had converted all the lights to LEDs, installed 8D AGMs.
I have two solar panels and a Sunforce 600 wind generator.
I also went to one Engle side load fridge and two Engle stand alone units. One is another fridge and one I use as a freezer.
I have enough power that I leave my anchor light on all the time and I have blue LEDs on the sugar scoops and one underneath the bridge deck that I leave on all the time, because it looks cool!
A few months ago, I removed the gas stove and oven. I made that area storage and corian counter tops.
I now cook with a NewWave induction cook top and the NewWave infrared oven.
I love cooking with these, fast and precise.
The only time I have a hard time is in the morning using the cooktop. I am usually about 90% in the morning on the batteries, so I have to be careful or start the 2000 Yamaha generator for a short time.
We still have a Magma grill on the davit, but we don't use it much since my wife and I don't eat meat.
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Re: We are we seeing electric stove tops on blue water cruisers?

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OK, so we have someone who understands statistics ...
Forty percent of all traffic accidents are caused by drunk drivers.
This means sixty percent of all accidents are caused by sober drivers.
Hence, statistically, your best chance of getting home safely is to get drunk before hitting the road.

Or as Lee Mack quips: “Drinking and driving is safer than either drinking or driving - and no one has ever died drinking, driving and juggling.”

I might add another interesting statistic.
The great majority of people have more than the average number of legs?
It's obvious really; amongst the 57 million people in Britain there are probably 5,000 people who have got only one leg.
Therefore the average number of legs is:
[(5000 * 1) + (56,995,000 * 2)] / 57,000,000 = 1.9999123

Since most people have two legs ...
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Re: We are we seeing electric stove tops on blue water cruisers?

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"No amount of facts"

But not a single fact has been presented. Not one.

No facts are presented because there aren't any better than the ones I presented. I know because I looked pretty hard at one time.
I provided you with links to the UK Office of National Statistics, USCG statistics and a report by BoatUS .... these people will be very surprised to hear that they have no facts.

On the other hand your facts consist of conversations with your buddies.
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Re: We are we seeing electric stove tops on blue water cruisers?

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I provided you with links to the UK Office of National Statistics, USCG statistics and a report by BoatUS .... these people will be very surprised to hear that they have no facts.

On the other hand your facts consist of conversations with your buddies.
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Nothing relevant in there.

If I missed it, then please copy and paste here. I'll be glad to be corrected if so.
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