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Old 08-09-2013, 12:04   #121
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Then you've made your choice to accept the government. It's very simply - you either move some place where you can get away from it or you accept it.

We all make choices and have to live with them.
negative.
We will be raising him on a yacht, sailing the world.
we shall have run-ins with government, thou i hope to keep them minimal.
This is how we are getting away from it. He will be spanked. lol.
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you can anchor in many country's, USA is not the only one.
and if the area is not policed, you can do as you wish, (guano islands).
off shore fishing needs no license.

yes, you can eat without buying food. shocker there i know, but not all food comes from McD.

you dont need a car or mass transit. frig. have you ever been to Amish country?
they have these things with two wheels, called bikes.

and yes, low maintenance boat. They have to be built, not bought.
the 65' steel cat i was going to build, and may still build, if the country has a way i can still earn money.
no below the water thru hulls, thick steel below the waterline, solar power (25-30 year lifespan) wind power (40+ years) on board small scale hydroponic farming, the cost to build is about $250,000 if built in USA.
the upkeep is epoxy paint, antifoul, MISC junk.

this low upkeep cost boat must be steel!
it must be a cat.
it must not be sail.
primary propulsion needs to be electric, with diesel backup.
i know, where do you get the diesel ECT, the hope is it would be needed so rarely, that 500 gallons would last years if not decades.

To me, sarcasm in the middle of a debate shows sloppy thinking. "Not all food comes from McD? Really? Who knew???

Go for it if that's what you want, Captain Nemo.
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Old 08-09-2013, 12:08   #123
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as a native brit almost by proxy,i should draw attention to the fact that there are only 22 countries we have not invaded.......you yanks are still on the learning curve lol

we wrote the book on land ownership!

British have invaded nine out of ten countries - so look out Luxembourg - Telegraph
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as a native brit almost by proxy,i should draw attention to the fact that there are only 22 countries we have not invaded.......you yanks are still on the learning curve lol

we wrote the book on land ownership!

British have invaded nine out of ten countries - so look out Luxembourg - Telegraph

good ol British colonialism love it.
is Gandhi a sore spot to you?
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My friend - move over here, to Dubai. Zero personal tax, zero road tax, don't know about properly (not stupid to buy). Excellent roads, petrol is cheaper than water. 300 sunny days per annum. Excellent winter.
Only if you can survive 6 months indoor (35-40 deg C outdoors) and without any sight of nature (sea + sand + idiotic skyscappers).
Big expat community. But not many yankees over here - probably because even if you live and work overseas, you STILL HAVE TO PAY INCOME TAX IN US. Why?
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My friend - move over here, to Dubai. Zero personal tax, zero road tax, don't know about properly (not stupid to buy). Excellent roads, petrol is cheaper than water. 300 sunny days per annum. Excellent winter.
Only if you can survive 6 months indoor (35-40 deg C outdoors) and without any sight of nature (sea + sand + idiotic skyscappers).
Big expat community. But not many yankees over here - probably because even if you live and work overseas, you STILL HAVE TO PAY INCOME TAX IN US. Why?
honestly, it came up on the list, how is the consensus on Jews and Christians?
you guys need lorry drivers right?
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you guys surprise me, how do you think someone with a 182IQ should talk, act?
the same as all of you?
look at John Sununu, he is a member of the same IQ society i am.
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Actually, Jewish is a religion. Israeli is a nationality. You don't seem to be getting anything right...
Im willing to bet Scob is a convert to Judaism ...
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Im willing to bet Scob is a convert to Judaism ...
you have no idea what your talking about, do you.
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good ol British colonialism love it.
is Gandhi a sore spot to you?
nope gandhi was actually a south african born to indentured indian parents,so he did a bit of land grabbing in his own right,even if it was altruistic
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you have no idea what your talking about, do you.
My sister converted,some of your logic jibs with her conversion views,was thinking you were my brother in law for a moment there, no offense..Shalom
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The road to enslavement and serfdom is not complicated to understand:

Most people gladly give up their freedoms in exchange for free stuff or the promise of free stuff from their governments. They willingly pay taxes just so long as the perceived value of the stuff being received is greater than the amount they're willing to pay. Democracy, Socialism and human nature.

I prefer freedom and enjoy liberty. Don't interfere with my life and I'll in return leave you alone to enjoy yours... everyone pays their own way, except those who truly can't... the key word being "truly."
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My sister converted,some of your logic jibs with her conversion views,was thinking you were my brother in law for a moment there, no offense..Shalom
i said earlier i am Christian, Christian is like adding a messiah to Judaism.
so unless i converted to Judaism, then Christian. lol :P
i don't personally know any Judaism converts, i knew they existed thou.

sorry to joke, but that that mean she can use Jdate? lol
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you guys surprise me, how do you think someone with a 182IQ should talk, act?
the same as all of you?
look at John Sununu, he is a member of the same IQ society i am.
That explains much...

Not sure I would use Sununu as a benchmark.

Emotional IQ - sometimes called "wisdom", is a significantly better benchmark than IQ at defining an individuals utility and success at life. Success being whatever a given individual defines for themselves....
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