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17-03-2010, 13:24
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US Census
What should we liveaboards do about the census?
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Walter
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17-03-2010, 13:59
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Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario - 48-29N x 89-20W
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I doubt that there's much you could do to prevent it.
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Gord May
"If you didn't have the time or money to do it right in the first place, when will you get the time/$ to fix it?"
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17-03-2010, 14:06
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Port Ludlow Wa
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Gord,
I would like to be the first to invite you to move the C.L.O.D. to south FLA, if only on a seasonal basis. We need your sense of humor down here.
Todd
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17-03-2010, 14:18
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Eastern Tennessee
Boat: Research vessel for a university, retired now.
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Don't worry, others will probably be counted twice for you.
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David
Life begins where land ends.
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17-03-2010, 14:38
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Bahamas/Florida
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Fill it out and give them a lat/long address.
Or, since the locations of the population determines where some of the tax dollars go, you can show an address where you would like to be counted. If you don't care, put down Welaka, Fl. in Putnam county. We can use the dough.
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17-03-2010, 15:50
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: W Florida
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GordMay
I doubt that there's much you could do to prevent it.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FSMike
Or, since the locations of the population determines where some of the tax dollars go, you can show an address where you would like to be counted. If you don't care, put down Welaka, Fl. in Putnam county. We can use the dough.
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17-03-2010, 15:57
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Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Hayes, VA
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It's a mostly about showing up event. Just sent my form in today. Helps if you actually live at a real address that isn't portable. So far they don't deal with virtual addressees. Not all a bad thing. Mosts states disagree about a lot of things but none are willing to count people, that can move. It means you might be counted some place else. From a selfish point of view the odds are you won't be in the state that you get counted on that long. So all states can agree they won't count people that are probably not in their state.
In the end it's mostly about the money. It's how we divide up the tax money. Should you live on a boat - every state wants your money provided you can show up in the every ten years census.
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17-03-2010, 16:22
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Join Date: Apr 2006
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Walter, if you have a Miami postal address, the form should reach you. No postal address? You might be considered a transient, and "uncensusable". Betcha the nice folks at the Census Bureau would answer you directly though.
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17-03-2010, 18:16
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Actually, I've tried to get the Census to include me, for the past thirty years. I even tried to get hired by them for the 1990 Census. They weren't interested in having someone visit the moored boats in San Diego Bay for input. And I haven't received a form this year either, even though I am tied to a dock and a registered liveaboard.
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17-03-2010, 18:32
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Location: sausalito
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They found me ten years ago, but couldn't get beyond the fact that I didn't have a street address.
Sometimes it's nice not to fit on the forms. When they finally make a form that asks for a fairway address, I may consider moving back onto dirt.
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22-03-2010, 09:12
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: oriental
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They had a party and food here to try to encourage people on boats to take the census, but they didnt have the actual forms. I asked at the library and they didnt have them either, so I guess I'm not counted.
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24-03-2010, 04:50
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: annapolis
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We've been aboard for 12 years and have never been counted. The irony is... all this time until last year my husband worked at the Census Bureau :lol
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24-03-2010, 05:19
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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Actually I'm working for the census this year as a crew leader. They (we) have both individual enumerators that are instructed to go where people live or might live, and other enumerators that go strictly to both transient locations and group quarters locations to hunt you down. Of course, you could always hide behind the dumpster till they're gone.
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24-03-2010, 06:32
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Location: Eastern Tennessee
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I'm surprised the US census won't accept the street address of your marina as your address. Just give your slip number as your apartment number.
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Life begins where land ends.
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24-03-2010, 08:01
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Join Date: Apr 2006
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Odd how the Census is proud to solicit the "homeless" and hand out forms at homeless shelters, but somehow, the homeless are more valid than those who live on boats. Who knew.
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