Sorry for the rather late reply.
Originally Posted by mintyspilot
It woud be crusining with two, sometimes four and ocassionally six.
Then a 36-odd foot boat would be ok for most people provided it is a reasonably modern design (older boats tend to have less interior
volume for a given length). A v-berth cabin
, a quarter berth cabin
, and overflow sleeping space in the saloon
, is a pretty typical layout for that size of boat, and will more or less work for the purpose you mention.
When you get to 40 -- 45 feet the space and comfort for that group of people will be higher, but at a great deal more cost.
Originally Posted by mintyspilot
OK - it is time for "Stupid question of the month". What needs fixing to the tune of several thousand dollars per month every month or are you including living costs in that?
No living costs. You've got:
1. Marina berthing fees
3. Scrubbing the bottom four times a year or so.
4. Hauling the boat at least once a year to antifoul.
5. Constant replacements
which simply wears out.
of the propulsion engine
, prop (if it is folding or self-feathering)
7. Replace batteries every several years
8. Repairing things that break.
9. Regular replacements
of standing and running rigging
10. Maintaining your teak
decks, if you have them (replacing them every 10 to 15 years is more expensive, in many cases, than repowering).
(paper, electronic, or both), acquiring new ones or updating old ones.
12. Upgrades to electronic and navigation gear
13. Regular maintenance
, repair, replacement of canvas
(spray hoods, biminis, covers)
14. Maintenance and repair of your dinghy
and outboard motor
, filters, impellers, other engine
16. Regular replacement of pumps
17. Wax, cleaning
18. Regular replacement of sails
as they wear out.
19. Maintenance and repairs
of your heating
20. Yearly certification
of your gas system
21. Taking care of and regular replacement of domestic goods like linens, cookware, crokery, etc.
22. Regular servicing and recertification of your life raft.
23. Maintenance and replacements of your safety equipment
, like lifejackets, fire extinguishers.
and it goes on and on; that's just off the top of my head
A cruising sailboat has a whole lot of complicated systems, all of which require constant maintenance:
2. D/C electrical
supply, battery charging
3. Navigation & electronics
, with a multitude of pumps
and/or air conditioning
8. Safety equipment
and sailing equipment
and could have many more systems:
13. telecomms, entertainment
If you take the annual cost of all of this, and average it out on a monthly basis, you will be doing very well to keep up with it all on a couple-three thousand a month on a modest-sized relatively simple boat where you are doing most of the work with your own hands.
It is possible but very difficult to get your expenses down below that level. The marina berth is probably the biggest single
line item (we spend around $1600/mo. just on this); you can save money
there by having a shorter boat (marinas charge by the foot), finding a cheaper marina (usually in an inconvenient location), or doing without a marina berth altogether and keeping your boat on some kind of mooring
You can save other expenses by having a simpler boat with fewer systems and buying
one in better condition, but that is a balancing act.
It is an enormous responsibility owning a cruising sailboat. Any cruising sailboat other than the most extremely spartan one is much more laborious and much more expensive to keep up than a house or car, or even house and car combined. There are only two ways for this responsibility to be something other than a nightmare: (a) you have a lot of money and you just hire in all of the work which needs to be done, best of all under supervision of a professional captain
who works for you; or (b) your boat (size, complexity) corresponds to your means, AND you enjoy working on it and tinkering with it; you regard all those systems as really fun toys which give you pleasure to mess around with; it doesn't bother you that you work on the boat for several hours for every hour you spend sailing.
I guess there is a third way: (c) you buy a boat in reasonably good condition, just use it and let it gradually fall apart without letting that bother you, meanwhile doing only the minimum work which will keep her afloat, and sell her on when it gets too bad.
My own way is (b). I enjoy working on the boat almost as much as I enjoy sailing, so it all works out fine for me. Even so it's very expensive, and even with decades of experience it will always cost more than you think.