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Old 19-12-2013, 10:42   #1
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The Idiots in Charge of Dry Tortugas

A little rant here, Ive been visiting the Dry Tortugas for several decades. Ive seen them spending big money trying to slow the atrophy of the monument to our governments waste. Ie.. the big fort that was never finished or used for anything worthwhile. Meanwhile they exclude us from areas of the park and charge admission supposedly used to police us.Wouldnt the money be much better spent on putting mooring balls in locations all over the park that people want to visit? Ive seen many people dragging into the coral, not to mention the damage done as anchor chains and rodes sweep the bottom clear of plant life and coral. Theyve excluded most of the park to recreational fishing now when on a given day Ive never seen more than a handful of people dropping lines in the water, me being one of them. i just dont get it. Are the officials really that stupid? I should mention my fishing is done while under sail dragging a spoon or two, not sitting in one place trying to catch everything under the boat. Little common sense here would seem to be in order.
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Old 19-12-2013, 10:46   #2
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"Little common sense here would seem to be in order."

Expecting common sense from the government. lol
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Maybe invite some of the Gov' desk jockeys for a day sail and show them the sense behind your argument..
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I agree that the park would be much more user friendly if there were moorings. But maybe that's the point. Maybe they are trying to discourage private boats from coming to the park...
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A little rant here, Ive been visiting the Dry Tortugas for several decades. ....Wouldnt the money be much better spent on putting mooring balls in locations all over the park that people want to visit? Ive seen many people dragging into the coral, not to mention the damage done as anchor chains and rodes sweep the bottom clear of plant life and coral.
It is your park and you make a good argument. Write a letter. Call your representative and/or senator. I bet you it would not be that hard to get this change made.
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Logic and Govt are not compatible....
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True... but revenue is.. show them what can be gained with fixed moorings in assorted prime locations and promotion to encourage cruisers with $$'s to spend locally..
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So they've been charging admission, and spending it on maintaining the monument? You're right, that's complete madness.
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Old 19-12-2013, 12:59   #9
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I have written the National park service several times. Ive also written the lwcf whos mission states

"Created by Congress in 1965, the Land and Water Conservation Fund (LWCF) was a bipartisan commitment to safeguard natural areas, water resources and our cultural heritage, and to provide recreation opportunities to all Americans'

They are failing in their mission. They are the ones closing off areas of the park instead of planting mooring balls.
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I was fortunate enough to spend a few months out there as a volunteer. One thing I remember, was that the park was being "managed" from the Everglades office, and that a lot of the basics, such as phone/internet communications were very much down prioritized by the head honchos back on the mainland who didn't "get it". I don't know if that's still the case, but I wouldn't be surprised if it still was.

Basically, what I'm trying to say is.. Don't blame the dozen or so folks that live out there, blame the desk jockeys..
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Back in 1985, as an FCC engineer, I got sent there for a week to oversee installation of a radio direction finder on the lighthouse to keep track of Castro's moving AM broadcast stations around in response to Radio Marti. Certainly one of the best business trips I've ever been sent on!

I was impressed by the immense, pristine beauty of the place, coupled with its great fragility. A few mooring balls to keep anchors off the reefs might be a good idea, but I'm not sure I'd want to see it promoted as any kind of major destination.

It wouldn't take massive crowds to ruin it forever in short order.
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National parks do far more good than harm, and if they put mooring balls out it would likely attract more people to one particular place.

I'm certain they're not perfect, but neither are those who drag their anchors over coral. I think it's a great idea for you to write them a letter, and advocate any improvements you can think of.

As for regulations, there are many places out there that aren't national parks, and you can go there without following park rules. If you're in a national park, however, you should generally follow their rules.
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National parks do far more good than harm, and if they put mooring balls out it would likely attract more people to one particular place.

I'm certain they're not perfect, but neither are those who drag their anchors over coral. I think it's a great idea for you to write them a letter, and advocate any improvements you can think of.

As for regulations, there are many places out there that aren't national parks, and you can go there without following park rules. If you're in a national park, however, you should generally follow their rules.
What are the park rules and regulations for anchoring?
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Putting a lot of money into a derelict unfinished fort. Closing off parts of the Island. No buoys etc. OK all you conspiracy theorists. What is the Gov't hiding/building there. Landing port for extra terrestrials?
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What are the park rules and regulations for anchoring?
"Vessels may only anchor overnight on sandy bottom within one nautical mile of the Garden Key Harbor Light"

http://www.nps.gov/drto/planyourvisi...&PageID=350231
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