Single Men Living Aboard and Cruising... an honest look.

[SaltyMonkey]

Every man should be required to read:

- Jane Eyre
- The Tenant of Windfell Hall
- Wuthering Heights
- Villette

...and keep their F** mouth shut

EDIT: and Little Women

[Celestialsailor]

Originally Posted by ShaktiGurl

Hard to imagine that is the case now but it likely started out intimate. And that is sad in itself as those women are obviously still in their prime. To be fair, the young beauties I mentioned were probably in their 30s-40s by now (even more beautiful!) with men 20-30 years their senior. Obviously wealthy and perhaps very good companions. My father is married to a woman 22 years his junior but she was no 20-something who had not lived a life of her own when they married. While I love her and she is a wonderful woman and I am so grateful she is there to take care of my dad, I can see that she still has a lot of life left in her while my dad has slowed considerably. She showed up last xmas eve looking like Catwoman in leather pants and jacket. She is smokin at 65! I am sure my dad appreciates she still looks great but I am guessing their intimacy days are over now that he is 87. These are things to consider when you choose a companion so different in age, if you are looking for a long-term companion.

There are also the types of men that seek out younger women because they like to tell them what they should want and need and expect that at 20 years old, they will always feel that way. This I have personal experience with as I ran off with a man nearly 20 years my senior when I was 19, much to my parents horror (another consideration). He wanted a life of adventure in Montana, to live on the land, etc. It sounded great but there was always that nagging feeling that I would need to find a way to earn my own living so I continued my education and training. He hated it and constantly told me it was a waste of time and I should just want to do the things he wanted to do. Eventually he told me that I was not worth much as a mother at age 29 ("used up" was the phrase), and well, I just had to put that to the test. Turned out he was so very wrong.

My point to the OP is this: 1) that the Riviera Beach Marina is pretty nice, if you don't mind a little funk (a.ka.a dysfunction). 2) That, it is my opinion, you are looking in the wrong age-bracket if you truely want a long-term companion (statistically speaking), or there is 3) the OP is actually intellectually and emotionally the age of a 20-something and while this might be the appropriate age bracket for him to be searching for a companion, well, as a mother of a 23 year old daughter, ICK! and No! But then, I WAS that girl.

Your point about an older immature man being with a 20 something women is quite correct. You have to consider at some point the 20 something becomes a radiant 40 something woman and the now 65 year old is still acting 18.
I guess the statement of win/win bothers me though. It seems shallow. I'm not one to talk too loud since I did the young Thai college girl back 15 years ago. She was very mature and intelligent. Alas, I knew she was bound to be a baby maker as she loved children and my raising children days were over (thank god)!

[2hullvenus]

Originally Posted by ShaktiGurl

If you are looking for a marina/boat yard to work in around South Florida, you might check out Riviera Beach marina. The docks are nice but the surrounding buildings are under construction. It is not the nicest neighborhood but I ride my bike around here and to the store with no issues. Right next door is Crackerboy boatworks and they seem to look the other way for those working and staying on their boats. It is right at the Port of Palm beach so easy access. The prices are reasonable, for South Florida....

As for your quest for a unicorn, I would say they are out there. Its just that young women these days are well aware of what men consider their "primary assets" and that those assets will grow "old and boring" (or as my husband would say, more intellectually and emotionally mature). They can't afford to blow off their education and starting a career knowing that they will be discarded when they quit wanting to go to raves (which kicked in for my own daughter at age 20 - now its jazz clubs and speakeasys - get with the times, man!). Young women know they have to be able to support themselves and build their own retirements and while they might have fun in their "semester abroad" playing on your boat, they eventually must consider themselves and their own future. So yeah, finding a 20-something willing to take a chance that you might stick around with them might be difficult.
But South Florida is the place to be to find that unicorn. Just last week I was walking around the Palm Beach Gardens mall. There were many young women walking, or in some cases, rolling their geezers around while they shopped. I guess it can be win-win for both. They get their young beauty and those young women, as far as I am concerned, are earning every penny of that money.

See, this is a good post. Thank you.

Made some good points, had some funnies at my expense and I had a smile the whole way through it.

Speakeasies... yawn. So boring. I know tons of them in Manhattan. All about swilling gallons of vodka. I really enjoy Art Basel and Miami Music week. Off the hookah is a cool spot for wpb.

New problem....

I have already found a taller blonde/blue that wants to come play on boats (22 yrs old). I'm hesitant because I'm more attracted to short brunettes and worry I'm not going to be physically attracted enough.

Not expecting answers there..


But Shakti: How is WPB? I just left there today. I was thinking of setting up there. I know a few people there, it's very boater friendly, several short brunettes I'm talking to there, etc.

Seems to have more going for it than miami as a place to live/refit.

I'd also like to make the point that I'm looking for long term, final relationships here. I've been single a few years here after a divorce, was always in good relationships before that.I bond pretty strongly with people. So... whoever it is, provided we get somewhere, I would never trade them in later for any reason.

I was already growing old with someone and was committed for life. I am not at all like the Montana guy.

Some of the reason for my divorce was that I tried to convert a city type girl to a travrl girl. In the long run, it didn't take. I need to start with the right type this time.

[Stu Jackson]

Originally Posted by weavis

.......but she didnt like the colour in the interior decor so it went back to Holland and is being refitted.

My wife watches HGTV. Although she just told me I watch it more than she does!

Anyway, there's all these folks looking at new house, and most of 'em say something really profound, such as: "I don't like the color" of the paint in any given room.

Should they be allowed to sell houses to these folks?

[brownoarsman]

2hulls-I'm trying to figure out what to do with my summer next year after my current consulting gig ends in April. I can either sail the east coast from the Chesapeake up to Maine, with at least a month in the vineyard. Or, I can trailer around to various white water spots and kayak my face off running rapids.

Not the deciding factor, obviously, but since you've over landed and cruised, which is less sketchy to members of the fairer but less adventurous sex?


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[2hullvenus]

Hey Bella: Why did you make 2 huge posts purely from things you have imagined about me off the top of your head? You have no idea of my background or experience.

Especially confusing was the one where I said I'm immature and want an equally immature mate. You twisted that in your brain to have something to do with actual age. It doesn't.

You gave piles of great advice... for someone else. Almost none of it was based on any facts about me.

It almost seemed like you were bitter because you are older and were hurt by someone who left you for a younger woman.

Well, I'm not that guy, ok?

I'm single.. divorced, not obligated to anyone yet, though I hope to be soon.

I'm just working through the interested girls to find the right match.

And no... nobody laughs at me at festivals. Sorry to burst your bubble. The younger guys do high five me when they see who I'm there with though usually.

[2hullvenus]

Originally Posted by brownoarsman

2hulls-I'm trying to figure out what to do with my summer next year after my current consulting gig ends in April. I can either sail the east coast from the Chesapeake up to Maine, with at least a month in the vineyard. Or, I can trailer around to various white water spots and kayak my face off running rapids.

Not the deciding factor, obviously, but since you've over landed and cruised, which is less sketchy to members of the fairer but less adventurous sex?


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Honestly, women are going to know more than I would, but land based stuff of course. Good showers are important, having a variety of things to do, etc.

As long as the rv is liveable, I'd go for that one.

[weavis]

Originally Posted by Stu Jackson

My wife watches HGTV. Although she just told me I watch it more than she does!

Anyway, there's all these folks looking at new house, and most of 'em say something really profound, such as: "I don't like the color" of the paint in any given room.

Should they be allowed to sell houses to these folks?

If you dont mind the cruise being cancelled and your summer plans wrecked and have to LEASE another boat for 2 months because of it having to be recoloured 'right now'......... then its fine.

I personally prefer to work with a partner rather than led, but hey, Im just very renaissance.....

Watching HGTV is not a weakness Stu....... although finding yourself agreeing with them is a dangerous sign......

[weavis]

Originally Posted by 2hullvenus

Hey Bella: Why did you make 2 huge posts purely from things you have imagined about me off the top of your head? You have no idea of my background or experience.

Especially confusing was the one where I said I'm immature and want an equally immature mate. You twisted that in your brain to have something to do with actual age. It doesn't.

You gave piles of great advice... for someone else. Almost none of it was based on any facts about me.

It almost seemed like you were bitter because you are older and were hurt by someone who left you for a younger woman.

Well, I'm not that guy, ok?

I'm single.. divorced, not obligated to anyone yet, though I hope to be soon.

I'm just working through the interested girls to find the right match.

And no... nobody laughs at me at festivals. Sorry to burst your bubble. The younger guys do high five me when they see who I'm there with though usually.

Its how you come across.
You still are achieving that immature impression in your retaliation.

Immature younger guys will high five you simply because the whole focus of their lives is alcohol and women. You are VERY shallow if the height of your achievement is 'who you are with'.

Sheesh fella. Bella was VERY right regarding you.

Better hurry up and get someone before it all breaks down and the reality of getting older hits and the arthritis catches you in mid rave. Some young thing you are with will simply move on to the next raver because she was not old enough to understand that 50 year old guys run out of Duracell long before 20 year olds. Unless you have very deep pockets, Im not sure you have anything to offer a younger woman, certainly not maturity, certainly not the realisation that in 10 years you will just be one more of us who work on half throttle because the get up and go got up and went and so we have to pace ourselves to maintain the balance.

Heaven help you if the prostate does a number and leaves you sat there hoping and praying that the young thing will be content especially as your claim to fame WAS being able to RAVE........

It appears that you dont really like women. Just young attractive decoration for your arm and ego. Its all about you. I see your dopplegangers in many marinas around the world. A little money, a desire to be seen as in the groove and frequent the younger crowds hang outs. A few more wrinkles, a little more stiffness and you will be labeled the creepy pervert instead of rock on Jimmy.......

And whilst I dont 'know' you, it is exactly what you portray in your writing.

For the record, YOU ARE THAT GUY.

[2hullvenus]

Oy.... this guy.

Angry/jealous wanker.

Ignore.

Originally Posted by weavis

Its how you come across.
You still are achieving that immature impression in your retaliation.

Immature younger guys will high five you simply because the whole focus of their lives is alcohol and women. You are VERY shallow if the height of your achievement is 'who you are with'.

Sheesh fella. Bella was VERY right regarding you.

Better hurry up and get someone before it all breaks down and the reality of getting older hits and the arthritis catches you in mid rave. Some young thing you are with will simply move on to the next raver because she was not old enough to understand that 50 year old guys run out of Duracell long before 20 year olds. Unless you have very deep pockets, Im not sure you have anything to offer a younger woman, certainly not maturity, certainly not the realisation that in 10 years you will just be one more of us who work on half throttle because the get up and go got up and went and so we have to pace ourselves to maintain the balance.

Heaven help you if the prostate does a number and leaves you sat there hoping and praying that the young thing will be content especially as your claim to fame WAS being able to RAVE........

It appears that you dont really like women. Just young attractive decoration for your arm and ego. Its all about you. I see your dopplegangers in many marinas around the world. A little money, a desire to be seen as in the groove and frequent the younger crowds hang outs. A few more wrinkles, a little more stiffness and you will be labeled the creepy pervert instead of rock on Jimmy.......

And whilst I dont 'know' you, it is exactly what you portray in your writing.

For the record, YOU ARE THAT GUY.

[ShaktiGurl]

WPB is pretty nice. The downtown area (which it sounds like you have visited) is active with lots of young and less young especially during the season which is starting up now. Coming from Colorado, the area and people are a little more relatable than Miami.

I'm not joking about the ick factor and a girls parents. If a girl has any sort of decent relationship with them, they will have something to say about their young 22 year old daughter forgoing school and career to follow a 40-something year old man in a boat. It will be a constant battle that will make her, and eventually you, miserable.
If she has no good relationship with her parents, watch out there too, there is likely damage.

Perhaps looking in a different country might work out, where your offer might actually be an opportunity for a better life. I can't imagine any young intelligent woman here thinking what you are offering is a good long-term choice for them.

[ALAIN97133]

Originally Posted by ShaktiGurl

...Perhaps looking in a different country might work out, where your offer might actually be an opportunity for a better life. I can't imagine any young intelligent woman here thinking what you are offering is a good long-term choice for them.

It depends a lot on how he's looking & if he's or not a boring old fart. I'm 69* & my Valerie is 49 & I believe we're enjoying each other on all aspect of our lives: She's French, I'm French-Canadian, She's a skydiver, I'm a paraglider, she's a diver, I'm a sailor, she's a teacher & I'm a retired architect & she's my viagra He should show us a picture or two of himself to help us help him... I'm sure he doesn't know the story of that wealthy american who sailed his Swan 44 to St-Petersburg municipal marina to pick up his rather young & far better looking than him, future wife ? She then told him that she was seasick as a dog on boats, any boat & that she would rather fly to London to join him... He loaded her suitcases & sailed alone into UK coastguards who discovered one of the suitcases full of heavy drugs... He spent 10 years in one of her Majesty's prisons My father always told me that experience is like toothpicks: Nobody wants to use one after somebody else
*It's in the family: My dad died in his sleep at 104, taking no medication whatsoever

[Exile]

Originally Posted by 2hullvenus

Oy.... this guy.

Angry/jealous wanker.

Ignore.

Hmmm . . . sounds like you're finally gettin' through to him, Weav!

[ShaktiGurl]

Alain - you both look lovely, happy and sound compatible! My dad and his wife are the same it's just I wish she was able to get out and do more of the things she likes without feeling like she is leaving my dad behind. But he just can't get out and do things like he used to. It is too tiring.

But, I have to ask those here in the community with daughters in their late teens or early 20s - would you feel comfortable with them bringing this 40-something year old, self-professed immature raver guy home and being told that she is going to quit school/job and go live on a half-built boat?

I mean, we are all sailors and want to help out a fellow sailor, right?

[Cuttyhunk]

Originally Posted by brownoarsman

2hulls-I'm trying to figure out what to do with my summer next year after my current consulting gig ends in April. I can either sail the east coast from the Chesapeake up to Maine, with at least a month in the vineyard. Or, I can trailer around to various white water spots and kayak my face off running rapids.

Not the deciding factor, obviously, but since you've over landed and cruised, which is less sketchy to members of the fairer but less adventurous sex?


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"Fairer but less adventurous", huh...where did you go to school, again? 😛

Boat sounds better to me, but I'm old now, and perhaps less adventurous...


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