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14-11-2010, 06:15
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Originally Posted by LakeSuperior
It's the temperature measured by the thermometer on the wall about 12 inches down from the ceiling in the sauna I use. The air temperature is stratified in a sauna, warmer on the upper bench and cooler on the lower bench. The newbies will sometimes sit on the lower bench.
On occasion if the stove is hot the thermal radiation tends to burn your legs. The exterior of the stove can exceed many 100s of degrees F. If heavily fired the hot parts of the stove may glow dull red.
In short temperature measuring is complicated when there is very hot and cool objects in the same room. The temperature measuring device measures some combination of air temperature and radiation temperature. It depending on how it is constructed, how much of the direct radiation from the stove it sees, and the actual air temperature.
Water boils at 212 deg F but your bodies complex temperature regulating controls cause you to sweat. The water evaporating from your skin helps to keep you cooler and cleans your skin from the inside out so they say. You could not survive indefinitely at these temperatures but it works for short periods of time.
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I have been in saunas where the air temperature was over 100C (212F). I think the Finns -- the originators of what we think of as a sauna -- typically keep their saunas at that kind of temperature.
I don't like it -- it hurts my eyes and my lungs.
I much prefer Russian or Turkish bath where the temperature is less, typically 60C or so in the case of a Russian bath, but humidity much higher in order to give you the same heating up of the body.
The cold cycle of the process can be done with a cold water plunge, or in winter time, a roll in the snow. The snow is fantastic because snow is mostly air and so is less of a shock than cold water.
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14-11-2010, 08:09
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Have you tried sitting in your engine compartment for 15 minutes at mid-day in the tropic's. I've never sweated as much in my sauna as I have in my engine compartment. Grap a wrench and lean over and the sweat intensity doubles.
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14-11-2010, 09:05
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Originally Posted by hummingway
How about a sweat lodge in the cockpit. Heat some rocks on the bbq, places the rocks in a pot on the cockpit floor, zip up the bimini and a little sea water on the rocks makes Bob your uncle!
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Interesting idea. I've made sweat lodges on the beach, but not the cockpit. A good enclosure would probably do the trick.
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14-11-2010, 22:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bash
230? !!! I don't know what it will do to your cabin, but it will certainly endanger your health.
In the USA, the UL code mandates that an electric sauna heater not be capable of exceeding 195F.
You might want to do a bit more research.
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By the sound of things, you might want to do a bit more research before doling out advice on how much research to do!
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14-11-2010, 22:39
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I probably will use an IR heater dockside, and the sauna will become storage while sailing. With regard to the direct-deposit sanitation system: Don't ask, don't tell, it works for the Navy!
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01-03-2017, 14:11
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Re: Sauna
Have you - or anyone - succeeded with the sauna project? I don't have a boat yet, but this is a really cool idea for winter/temperate weather sailing. Probably I'd want a boat where there is enough room for it (and still <40').
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01-03-2017, 23:54
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Re: Sauna
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Originally Posted by GTom
Have you - or anyone - succeeded with the sauna project? I don't have a boat yet, but this is a really cool idea for winter/temperate weather sailing. Probably I'd want a boat where there is enough room for it (and still <40').
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I did some sailing some years ago on a Swan 90 which had a sauna. I thought, at the time, that was silly.
I have completely changed my mind now after spending some time working in Finland and getting used to this way of bathing. A nice hot sauna is just what you need after a cold, windy, maybe wet passage up at these latitudes.
The Swan just used the aft cabin's shower compartment, as the sauna. The only addition was some kind of device for bringing heat into it. I suppose that even on a smaller boat, you could turn one heads compartment into a sauna fairly easily.
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02-03-2017, 03:45
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Re: Sauna
Converting the shower is a good idea.
For usefulness: the body (mine at least...) needs extended periods of warmth otherwise it catches cold. A hot shower is simply too short (or wastes half the water of the ocean...), for a bathtub there is no place on smaller boats, sauna should it be then...
I might give Norway a try once, some extra heat is definitely welcome up there...
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09-04-2017, 20:40
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Re: Sauna
Love this! I am
Moving onto my boat in 2 weeks. I plan on converting one of my heads to a closet and the shower to an infrared sauna! I can't wait
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09-04-2017, 22:40
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Re: Sauna
As one who have a sauna several times a week sharing some facts.. While it's possible to have sauna up to 110C/230F I personally prefer 70C/160F there's not so much difference how you feel the heat. The ~100C range it's mostly dry heat, not so much steam as in the lower ~70C range. In either case it's perfectly safe with common sense and limited time in the heat. Avoid the use of metal in a sauna except the heater unit. Untreated ash or apache wood are the best materials for your skin but many other species go as well.
I'm building a sauna compartment in my 38'ish boat but going with a (turkish) steam generator unit. It fit's in a smaller place and is less a hazard burning one's butt in a cramped compartment. The compartment will multipurpose as a sauna, shower and a wet/drying locker.
BR Teddy
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10-04-2017, 03:48
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Re: Sauna
Greetings and welcome aboard the CF, gandil.
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10-04-2017, 07:17
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#28
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cat herder, extreme blacksheep
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Re: Sauna
sauna--wow--- my boat in tropics without the tarps is a sauna --especially while running engine.
could get interesting.
welcome to cf.
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10-04-2017, 07:36
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Re: Sauna
I've toyed with the idea of a sauna in my head compartment as it is separated from the sink and thus is smaller and would be easier to keep hot. However, since I only use the boat from mid May to mid October I figured for now it is not worth the trouble.
I would be interested in that steam unit a previous poster talked about. Can you PM me the names and other info? Much appreciated.
Years ago when deciding on which sauna to install at home I came across one such steamer unit built or sold under Jacuzzi name. But the price at the time was around $2,500-3,000 plus installation and since it would involve too much destruction and the owner below allowing access from his side I ended up with a regular cedar lined dry sauna (carved out of a walk-in closet) with 110v 3Kw heater. Not as hot as I'd like but hot enough to have a decent sauna on cold winter days. Funny thing though the first 5 years I've used it practically weekly. As the time went by it went to monthly and today its down to once or twice per winter. Now use it to store sails and cushions as it makes perfectly dry and convenient storage space.
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10-04-2017, 07:54
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Re: Sauna
Here in Finland saunas on boats are not that rare, even on motorcruisers and motorsailors from maybe 35ft up. Not that common either, I've never seen one live. I would not have one, even if we had a bigger boat, since basically every marina has a decent sauna mostly included in the price of the stay.
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