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Old 27-10-2012, 13:02   #1
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I think I want to get a rugged blue water sailer and just use for liveaboard and coastal trips for added stability and comfort in rough seas,...Is this a good idea,...any recomendations?
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What size? What budget? etc etc
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Yes, I think that would be nice...
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OTOH, why spend extra $$ for maybe nothing.
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I think I want to get a rugged blue water sailer and just use for liveaboard and coastal trips for added stability and comfort in rough seas,...Is this a good idea,...any recomendations?
Neither extra stability nor comfort in rough seas are guaranteed with a rugged blue water sailer. Ruggedness, perhaps.

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Old 27-10-2012, 14:46   #6
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Not sure if there will be worthwhile gains in "safety", "stability", or "comfort".
I do believe there are great benefits to having a "rugged boat". Don't know about others but I am regularly crashing stuff all over the boat: dropped objects on decks; shore boats, anchors and docks on topsides; the keel on seabed (no rocks - yet) etc. Does not have to be metal, just solid and without glossy finish.

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First step to avoiding rough weather is to have no fixed timetable. Sail when the forecast is reasonable, motor to reduce passage time if it's getting lumpy, and plan every possible divert to safe haven on the way. Most of you time on board is likely to be in the marina, or at the destination, so don't sacrifice comfort for bad weather ability. Just avoid the bad weather.
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Re: safe boat

If you are talking heavy displacement, it will give you more living space but usually not a 'fun' boat to sail in coastal waters. What makes them comfortable on the open ocean translates into slow and cumbersome handling elsewhere. That's not necessarily slow as in speed but slow in reacting to inputs from sails and rudder. Boats like the Westsail 32 won't be sterling performers in the lighter wind conditions found inshore. We sold our W32 because of the light winds common where we live.

'Offshore capable boat' doesn't necessarily mean heavy. Many boats that are moderate displacement and even light can be sailed anywhere with safety. They will probably not be as comfortable length for length but more satisfying to sail.

Coastal cruising, it is very easy to stay away from bad sailing conditions and you usually aren't going to be sailing when bad conditions are common, anyway. I wouldn't let the possibility of facing stinky conditions be the prime determiner of the boat I bought for coastal sailing.

For liveaboard, storage is the most critical thing to consider. Boats with very open plans have tons of wasted airspace but usually very poor storage.
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Re: safe boat

Thanks the insight folks,...think I'll look for something a bit more moderate in weight and too deep draft could probably restrict movement in bays or even the ICW,...I'll be spending probabaly 50 or 60k and hope that will get something that will not need much more $ to be fit,...
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Re: safe boat

In that price range I would probably be looking at a relatively new beneteau, hunter, or Catalina. Somewhere in the 35 foot range would be right in your price range, and while I might not be thrilled about sailing them across the ocean, they will give you reasonable sailing performance and a lot of living accommodations for the money.
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I believe this figure buys today a decent 35-40 footer in the US?

Remember to look beyond the purchase price - you will spend some money to get the boat to be what you want it to be, then there will be annual maintenance budget and also some taxes, mooring fees, etc..

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What speed would be avg for a 35 beneteau, hunter or catalina with a 10 to 15 kt wind? Haven't got a boat and already planning a trip,...
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I used 5 knots.
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How did we live before the Internet:

beneteau polar diagram - Google Search

Flat water, light boat, clean hull, etc..

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