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13-07-2018, 18:52
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#16
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Registered User
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Location: Jacksonville, Fl
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Re: Planing Sail to Brazil
It's not Yacht yet just 33' Hunter
i do not have map yet still study the possible route to go
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13-07-2018, 18:54
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#17
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Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Jacksonville, Fl
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Re: Planing Sail to Brazil
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Originally Posted by Pete7
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This will be my first one
the length is 33' Hunter Sail Boat
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14-07-2018, 02:23
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#18
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: No home port, full time liveaboard
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Re: Planing Sail to Brazil
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Originally Posted by smartmanjp
This will be my first one
the length is 33' Hunter Sail Boat
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It can be done on pretty much any sailboat and if you cross the Atlantic twice and follow the route I described it is not that hard at all with a maximum of about 12 to 14 days at sea any given time between landfalls.
But you do need to have a lot of experience or bring very experienced people with you who will know what to do if things break or aren’t going as expected.
Btw crossing the Atlantic twice from TX to Natal would be a 3 to 4 month trip, not sure if you realise that. And it’s probably safer to take even more time to do it. Take an early start in February in TX and then wait for May to leave FL for the Azores over Bermuda, then wait for the right weather window to jump to Portugal, or directly to Madeira where you might arrive somewhwere in June or July depending on your luck with the weather windows. Once there the weather is very much in your favor and you get windows all the time.
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14-07-2018, 04:07
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#19
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: between the devil and the deep blue sea
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Re: Planing Sail to Brazil
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Originally Posted by Tricolor
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Yes and no.
Cabo Verde hard to reach other than via the Azores. And the guy is going in December.
As said otherwise it is hard on the wind AND CURRENT (plenty of it) if done along the coast from Trinidad onwards to the corner.
I would just forget about it and do it next year via the Azores.
b.
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14-07-2018, 04:14
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#20
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Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Brazil
Boat: Custom Swedish Vindö 50 (35 ft)
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Re: Planing Sail to Brazil
James Baldwin has a three-part article on the sail to Brazil from the US. It's worth reading. This is part one, then you just click on the arrow at the bottom of the page to go to part two and three:
Atom Voyages - The Long Way Back to Brazil (Part 1)
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14-07-2018, 04:21
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#21
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Re: Planing Sail to Brazil
I presume you know this but importing a sailboat in Brazil has a 100% tax. So whatever you paid for it, you’ll have to pay again if you want to keep it there. Look into it if you're not aware of this because my information is dated and not detailed.
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14-07-2018, 04:26
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Location: Brazil
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Re: Planing Sail to Brazil
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Originally Posted by 2big2small
I presume you know this but importing a sailboat in Brazil has a 100% tax. So whatever you paid for it, you’ll have to pay again if you want to keep it there. Look into it if you're not aware of this because my information is dated and not detailed.
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I think you can only import new boats in Brazil, not used ones. If the boat doesn't have a Brazilian flag it can only stay in Brazil for 2 months (if I recall correctly) and then has to leave Brazilian waters, which will be complicated in the northeast of Brazil, to return for another 2 months. If the plan is to stay in Brazil with the boat, I'd look to buy one in Brazil with a Brazilian flag.
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14-07-2018, 07:05
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#23
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Re: Planing Sail to Brazil
We currently in Salvador Brazil. Want any info mail me on angelasmith.sa@gmail.com as we not often on Wi-Fi
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14-07-2018, 08:55
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Jacksonville, Fl
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Re: Planing Sail to Brazil
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Originally Posted by smartmanjp
New On the sea looking for advice for a trip from Houston, TX to Brazilian coast on 38' Hunter any advice welcome i plan to start Sail on December the 1first
Thanks in advance
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Here my First Option
My first choice is Take off from houston, TX Mexico Guatemala Nicaragua Costa Rica Panama Columbia Venezuela Guyana Suriname Fresh Guiana Brazil can you tell if this can be dan ? and if it's safe and how far from the coast line i can sailing ?
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14-07-2018, 09:01
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#25
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Location: Brazil
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Re: Planing Sail to Brazil
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Originally Posted by smartmanjp
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Man, you must love beating into wind and current...
Read the James Baldwin article I mentioned in a previous post. He describes the logic of the route he chose.
Also, have a look at the wind and current charts for your route to see what you're getting yourself into.
Your proposed route is going to be very difficult and not much fun.
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14-07-2018, 11:43
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Solent, England
Boat: Moody 31
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Re: Planing Sail to Brazil
Quote:
Originally Posted by smartmanjp
Here my First Option
My first choice is Take off from houston, TX Mexico Guatemala Nicaragua Costa Rica Panama Columbia Venezuela Guyana Suriname Fresh Guiana Brazil can you tell if this can be dan ? and if it's safe and how far from the coast line i can sailing ?
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Here are your first charts showing ocean currents.
Pete
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14-07-2018, 11:51
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Solent, England
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Re: Planing Sail to Brazil
The prevailing wind charts:
Pete
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14-07-2018, 12:03
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#28
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Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Brazil
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Re: Planing Sail to Brazil
Quote:
Originally Posted by smartmanjp
Here my First Option
My first choice is Take off from houston, TX Mexico Guatemala Nicaragua Costa Rica Panama Columbia Venezuela Guyana Suriname Fresh Guiana Brazil can you tell if this can be dan ? and if it's safe and how far from the coast line i can sailing ?
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Meu chapa, procure o livro "Navegando del Plata ao Amazonas" do Yamandú Rodriguez Villalba (ver link) em que ele descreve a furada que é navegar a costa norte do Brasil contra o vento e corrente. Ele faz a volta do Belem do Pará para o nordeste contra vento e corrente, navegando perto da costa para tentar pegar uma contra-corrente (a favor) entre bancos de areia, barcos de pesca sem luzes e ondas. Não é fácil, nem seguro, e nem um pouco divertido!
https://www.estantevirtual.com.br/li...nas/3812910375
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15-07-2018, 08:40
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#29
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Jacksonville, Fl
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Posts: 75
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Re: Planing Sail to Brazil
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete7
The prevailing wind charts:
Pete
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so what do you think it's possible to sail in this route?
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15-07-2018, 08:46
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#30
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cruiser
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Probably in an anchorage or a boatyard..
Boat: Ebbtide 33' steel cutter
Posts: 5,030
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Re: Planing Sail to Brazil
Quote:
Originally Posted by smartmanjp
so what do you think it's possible to sail in this route?
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Possible but very hard all the way down. Friend did it from Trini, hard core , been round cape horn solo guy - he said never ever again. I did it the other way, coming up from Brazil, sometimes 70Nm a day just from the current. So think of sailing dead into often very light winds for 70Nm every day.
Just to stand still...
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