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Old 28-07-2010, 21:34   #46
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I've never heard the arguments laid out so clearly against mineral spirits with evidence to back it up. I've used it in the past with positive results, with the exception of a distinct smell that the w&p oil never produces. I'll phase it out.

One thing I can absolutely recommend for bulkhead mounted lamps, especially when used in a berth, is to mount a small mirror behind them. I'd say I get 20%-30% more light, and it makes the small flat wick style lamps suitable for reading. Give it a shot. Pick up a small mirror and just tape it in place and see if it helps.
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Old 28-07-2010, 22:26   #47
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My father-in-law had a couple of the round wick lamps. He was dutch and had live on wooden boats most of his life. The lamps were amazing in the light they gave off. They had a little mushroom shaped dome in the middle of the wick that generated a high wind velocity that contributed to its clean burning effeciency.

He never had trouble with sooting of lamps and such. Hi trick was to use a mixture of 10% white gas mixed with the kerosene. This mix generated a little more heat and thus more light and less carbon. I believe this mix is called Jet-B fuel in the aviation field used to run gas turbines.

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I actually do most of the things you suggest, Zeehag. My plastic out-put is extremely small. My little comment at the end was not meant to introduce conflict, but rather to be a statement of who I am. My sailboats have no motors. the kero I use for lighting and cooking is my only petroleum immediate use when living aboard. Right now I am driving a pickup and using all sorts of plastic in my tools as I build my retirement home sailboat.
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The only thing I know about white gas is from using it as a fuel when backpacking. The stuff is incredibly flammable; seems like gasoline on steroids. Don't some of the varieties of aviation fuel contain antifreeze type compounds? No idea on those; just read it somewhere.
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BTW, I used an "oderless lamp oil" bought from the same marine vendor. What did I do wrong??
After buying my second oil lamp – a mast light version – I have also started using the low odour kerosene. The only difference I discovered other than the price and clear shade is that you don’t seem to get the kerosene odour in the cabin or on your clothes that I experienced when I had both lamps going in the cabin at once for long periods.

The only electric light I am really reliant on nowadays is the reading lamp over the settee. Otherwise it is so relaxing to sit back to the ambiance of the lamps. Somewhere in the not too distant future I am hoping to buy a genuine Welsh miner’s safety lamp like my grandfather used in the pits which should complete the traditional tone. See, Gilbert Gray & Co Pty Ltd

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We use a small miner's lamp with lamp oil for emergency lighting, but must admit most lighting comes from our 12V system which is wind and solar powered. We use a solar lawn light in the cockpit for finding the boat at night from our dink :-) Also have a 12-LED clip light in the cockpit for those need-better-lighting situations. Batteries are rechargeable.
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Here is more than you EVER wanted to know about fuel for lamps;

KEROSENE FUEL PRIMER
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A few pints of dinosaur lamp oil is preferable to whale oil, and it burns more cleanly
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A few pints of dinosaur lamp oil is preferable to whale oil, and it burns more cleanly
yeah, and the dinos are extinct already....
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Hey the whale oil is a renewable resource so its gotta be better!!!!!!!!!
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Hey the whale oil is a renewable resource so its gotta be better!!!!!!!!!
Sorry to divert slightly from the topic, but by strange coincidence in the days of the mariners of old (well even up till the last century) the lamps most likely would have been powered by whale oil. In fact, not long back whole cities where lit by this at the time considered renewable resource. For memory Herman Melville author of the renowned “Moby Dick” was one of the first people to publicly acknowledge that these mammals may one day face extinction.

Regardless of today’s political correctness, as a collectors item it would probably be very nice to hang a genuine whale oil lamp on a traditional boat?
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You bring up a very good point. Is there a place we can get the thick old brass or bronze lamps? Esp. the ones that have lens's good for anchoring out.
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adding alcohol?

I've heard that adding a small amount of alcohol to the kerosene will make it burn much cleaner. Can anyone corroborate that suggestion, and if so, what ratio of alcohol to kerosene?
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geeziz george just buy liquid paraffin. comes under name ultra pure in walmart. sheesh.
the thicker kind of lamps are old and antique--perko makes an anchor lamp, and i havent found nav lights yet--i want some as i have an older looking boat and would be a god change from the electric ones that eat up so much juice.
harnish makes a thick brass lamp. weems and plath yacht lamps are good. heavy and solid.but are indoor lamps. only seen the anchor lamps by perko. i buy antique ones at marine swap meets when i can..
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I've heard that adding a small amount of alcohol to the kerosene will make it burn much cleaner. Can anyone corroborate that suggestion, and if so, what ratio of alcohol to kerosene?
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I have found that adding alcohol to me makes the kerosene seem to burn cleaner ... can't corroborate since i am inebriated at the time. I'd suggested a couple od drinksper hour
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