I am about to buy my first sailboat to liveaboard
. I have it narrowed down to two boats and would appreciate your feedback to help me pick, hopefully the better choice.
I plan to liveaboard
it in a marina on the north east (NYC) and head
south to warmer waters (Mexico) in the colder months. Plan on keeping it as much coastal cruising as possible.
The boats are both Oday 272. Here is a link to their general specs: I Heart O'Days - Model Information - O'Day 272
These are my two options:
1) An inboard diesel
2) An brand new Honda
for $8400. But it comes with a $400 GPS
so they are about the same price
at the end of the day.
In more detail:
1) The diesel
is the 30 year old that came stock, it looks in ok shape, it runs. There is grime underneath the engine
and it smelled pretty strong. The marina took a look and supposedly its not a leak, just crud that has been accumulating for who knows how long. The rest of the boat looks clean and well maintained. I am assuming that a good cleaning
effort under the engine
will get rid of the stink.
- It has a marine head
- No shore power
(I can wire that myself, but it will be atleast $100 and change, probably more like $300).
- Includes a mantis umbrella.
I like that its a diesel for better rough sea performance/safety. The marina however cannot get this boat launched for me for another month, and I am already paying for the slip..
2) The other boat has a brand spanking new Honda
9.9 with the cockpit
that charges from it and has shore power
wired on. I like the fact that it gives me more storage
space inside for liveaboard stuff, I like that I can easily and cheaply get new parts
compared to the older diesel (its a westerbeke
10/2), I like that it has zero smells in the cabin
, I like that it will be risk free as its new, I like that I know how to work on 4stroke gas engines (moto mechanic). What I fear is that it will add another 2 - 3 feet to my LOA
and end up costing $50+ a month to just hang there. For $50 I can get a storage
facility locally that is 5x5 or get a bigger boat! I really fear its crappy performance while in rougher water
. I do like that there is no stuffing box to fiddle with and sink the boat.
This boat also comes with a portapotty.. which is a no go, however it means I can upgrade to a composting toilet ($800) without having to pull smelly hoses, tanks
, and worry about the thru hulls leaking (or glassing them). Its an extra expense, but it seems I would have a better toilet for my needs (eco and simple) and also gain alot of storage space under the V-Berth for clothing
that would otherwise have the holding tank
. I have never used a regular marine head
, so maybe its not so bad.. if I get the diesel I could live with that and upgrade at a later point.
This boat has brand new hardware
for the lines, etc.
This boat has a few blemishes, the wooden door to the cabin
got ripped up by a raccoon, so I will have to go to HomeDepot and work somthing out. The V-berth hatch
lock is broken, so I will have to rig something up or replace ($350 new). Both winches work, however one sounds odd.. its dull rather than the usual brigther clicking sound as it spins past the pins. It does seem to work, just sounds off. So I am assuming I will have to rebuild
The nice thing about this boat is that its just had the bottom painted and is already launched, so I can have it asap.
Here are pics of them:
(might take a few to upload on my end)
Note, there is a 3rd boat on there with an old (15year) yamaha outboard
that is also an option for the same price
So my general questions:
1) Would you recommend I stick with the diesel and the marine head
at the loss of internal storage but shorter LOA
? Or do you see the stink free new outboard as a better motor
considering all the extra storage I get inside?
2) How hard is it to strip out the old marine
head from the diesel boat and put in a composting toilet. Is it easy to leave the thru halls shut without having to glass them over?
Thanks for your feedback guys