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Old 01-05-2016, 03:54   #16
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Re: Looking for a 32-ft live aboard, motorsailor

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Thanks Sis....

If that FinnSailer had a step-thru tansom, I'd be digging for my check book!

If I was thirty years old, I could hook the dingy up to the davits and clammer up the stern. But not anymore, I'm afraid.

But really appreciate you looking for me. Thank you!
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You are quite welcome bcripps. But no walk through transom. However having an easy egress is very important in my book too. And ergometrics throughout. The Finnsailer was added to the collection of bookmarks on the computer a day or two before your post came up:
1967 Bristol 39.9 sailboat for sale in Florida
1970 Finnclipper motorsailer sailboat for sale in New York 1973 Bristol 35 sailboat for sale in Florida 1973 Seafarer 38C sailboat for sale in Ohio
1974 Islander Yachts I36 sailboat for sale in Wisconsin
1976 C&C 38-2 sailboat for sale in Alabama
1978 Pacific Seacraft Mariah Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com
1979 Irwin Yachts Citation sailboat for sale in Maine
1980 CSY CSY 33 sailboat for sale in Connecticut
1980 Hunter Cherubini 37 sailboat for sale in Florida
1980 southern cross sailboat for sale in Florida
1980 Pearson 365 Ketch sailboat for sale in Illinois
1981 Morgan 41 Out Island sailboat for sale in North Carolina
1982 Canadian Sailcraft CS 33 sailboat for sale in Florida 82 Irwin Citation sailboat for sale in Ohio
1982 Irwin Citation 40 MKII sailboat for sale in Florida
1984 Freedom 32 sailboat for sale in Florida
1984 Tayana Mk 2 cutter sailboat for sale in Rhode Island
1985 Freedom Yachts Freedom 32 sailboat for sale in Michigan
1986 Oceancraft Ebbtide 33' sailboat for sale in Florida
1986 Catalina 34 sailboat for sale in New York

Some of these have been on the market for quite some time.

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Re: Looking for a 32-ft live aboard, motorsailor

For some people, Hudson Force...

My wife has a similar ailment and is long done with ladders. And, personally, I hate add-ons. It tells me that the naval architect is either a thirty-year old monkey, or hasn't thought things through, or is designing for weekenders, and has never had to live aboard one of his creations.

I worked in boat building for many years and it always amazed me how little time naval architects spend on boats.

Too much time spent book learning and chasing commissions, I guess.

Thank you for your thoughts,
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Old 01-05-2016, 07:33   #18
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Thank you Maxingout: I can't say I've ever been on a small cat that felt like home. At 32 feet, the space was too cramped. Not even standing headroom in the salon in the PDQ I was on recently. I've never been on a Prout but would be interested in checking one out. At least it doesn't look like a spaceship. But again, in the 30 to 32 foot range, I don't fancy my chances

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Old 01-05-2016, 07:36   #19
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Thanks for the tip, Uncivilized... I'll check them out.
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Re: Looking for a 32-ft live aboard, motorsailor

Look at a Lancer Motorsailer. Good luck
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Thanks again, Three Sisters.
I checked out the website, Sailboat Listings, I think it is. The first thing I noticed was it is one of the few sites (maybe the only site), that actually has “Motorsailers” listed in their drop down menu. The other thing that surprised me was how many boaters consider their sailboats, motorsailers, just because there is an engine under the floorboards. Of the dozens of boats listed as motorsailers, few actually fit the definition.

Oh well...

Best to you...
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Thank you, Steady Hand. Spent some time searching for a Lancer Motorsailer without much success. Did they make such a boat in my size range? Would appreciate a link if you have one.

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As far as I know there are no motorsailors in your range that have open transoms.. they are just not meant or designed for that..
Here's my favourite builder of MS... 1990 Fisher 31 Motorsailer sailboat for sale in Wisconsin
Just fit some fold down steps at the transom.
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Re: Looking for a 32-ft live aboard, motorsailor

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For some people, Hudson Force...

My wife has a similar ailment and is long done with ladders. And, personally, I hate add-ons. It tells me that the naval architect is either a thirty-year old monkey, or hasn't thought things through, or is designing for weekenders, and has never had to live aboard one of his creations.

I worked in boat building for many years and it always amazed me how little time naval architects spend on boats.

Too much time spent book learning and chasing commissions, I guess.

Thank you for your thoughts,
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This sounds like you're working against your own success.

On one hand you don't approve of the naval architect's attention to ergonomics and the designs of available motorsailor's access from the stern, and yet, even with many years of boat building experience, you reject "add ons" as if even an experienced craftsman could not improve what the naval architect produced.

Compromise and adaptation is a characteristic of all successful cruisers and cruising vessels.
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Re: Looking for a 32-ft live aboard, motorsailor

Thinking outside the box here... How about some creative Sawzall and fiberglass work to make a walk-in transom on a boat that otherwise fits your needs?
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Re: Looking for a 32-ft live aboard, motorsailor

If you like the Cape Dory 30, you might want to check out a Gulf 32 pilothouse.
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Boatman, Hudson Force, Steve Bean... Nope, nope, and nope. But thanks for your suggestions. I'd go to Europe, first, and buy what I want and cruise the Med for a few years. Italy sounds nice.
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In that case if Europe is your start point.. knock Motorsailors on the head.. your requirement does not exist..
Look instead at the more modern Pilothouse yachts.. a variation on the theme.
They sail better and have the engine performance you need.
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Hey Fishead...

That Gulf 30 Pilothouse looks like a gem. My problem with the Capy Dory 300 was it didn't come across as a liveaboard; open shelving and no cockpit storage is a dead giveaway. But the Gulf 30 seems to have a livable interior; the quarter berth is a gift. I like the smallish cockpit with a tiller (wow... what a concept! I pulled the wheel out of my 34 years ago, and went back to a tiller. I never regretted it! I mean how much time to you spend steering a boat when cruising?) And the transom door could work nicely for me, allowing easy access from the inflatable when it's hooked in the davits. I also was pleased to see an anchor locker that looks to be able to handle a hundred feet of chain.

Thanks, Fishead... this could be it!
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Cheechako... sorry it took so long to get back to you but I couldn't find my copy of The Yogi Book.

How about: We made too many wrong mistakes!
Or my favorite: The future ain't what it used to be!

Baseball's never been the same...

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