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Old 06-10-2013, 05:55   #31
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Re: Liveaboard Sneakaboard

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It is a right of passage for any boat owner who gets divorced to go live on their boat,I did , and know many others who have also. Are you married ? Tell the dm you are serparated/divorced and you will gain a lot of sympathy.
not from everyone. i think very poorly about divorced/separated people.
i would rather a homeless person do a passage with me. but then me and the wifes parents are both divorced :P i give her parents crud about it all the time
to me, someone is who divorced is a quitter, and makes poor choices in life.
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Old 06-10-2013, 06:04   #32
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Scoobert,

It takes 2 too Tango , and

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Old 06-10-2013, 06:05   #33
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good thing we get to pick tango partners.
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Old 06-10-2013, 06:31   #34
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Greetings and welcome aboard the CF, Stellablew.
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Old 06-10-2013, 07:45   #35
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Hiya Scoobie! Don't pass any judgement on separated or divorced people; not easy for them to be in that situation. People's behavior change with time for a variety of reasons. In the olden days, folks would get married for life; divorce was unthinkable. Nowadays, the mind set has changed.

I know a few things for a long lasting bliss...trust and give space in your relationship...and finally, do not talk about it. Loose lips sink ships! (Had to use this quote to confuse the MODs and make them think it's a boat-related topic.)

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Old 09-10-2013, 01:50   #36
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Don't make any waves on land! Be neat, respectful, and help out when you can. I have lived aboard in several non-live aboard marinas. The guards just said HI!
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Old 13-10-2013, 09:40   #37
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Has anyone ever done this? Snuck aboard your boat to live in a non-liveaboard marina?

I was thinking of doing it 2-3 nights a week once I get my sailboat.

What's the best way to do it without getting caught?

In every marina I've been in, 3 nights is the limit and OK. After 4, you're a "sneak aboard." Even then, often, they will quietly look the other way although you will still have to be very careful. In one case, the marina operator tried very hard to look the other way -- and then the guy started putting potted plants on his finger dock! It was just so obvious, had had to move his boat.

They also let me stay a couple of weeks when I was having severe engine trouble. But once again it's about your behavior. I woudn't want to do it. You don't want to get caught carrying your laundry off, for instance. You can keep your clothes in the car. How can you be a live-aboard when there is only one extra change of clothes (tomorrow's clothes actually), for an emergency?

keep the topside of the deck extremely neat and clean. Most people don't like sneak-aboards because the boat often starts looking a little seedy.

Take it out and anchor out some nights if you can so the boat isn't *always* in the slip 24 hours a day.
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Re: Liveaboard Sneakaboard

[QUOTE=Teknav;1357474]Hiya Scoobie! Don't pass any judgement on separated or divorced people; not easy for them to be in that situation. People's behavior change with time for a variety of reasons. In the olden days, folks would get married for life; divorce was unthinkable. Nowadays, the mind set has changed.


Actually Teknav, I think you'll find that in the olden days, the wealthy did whatever they wanted, and the lower classes did marry till "death do us part", but that at that time, there was an excellent chance that wife #1 would have died in childbirth, or from infection post partum, usually within 5 yrs. of marriage. So actually, it was serial monogamy that was practiced, the actual time involved being largely dependent on the health and endurance of the woman, who often had a pregnancy each year. Mindset has changed; but also technology has released many women from brood mare status.

Uh, what's this to do with cruising? The decision to have babies aboard is surely a private one.

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Or as my old marina looks at it "we now have a security guard that pays us to watch the place"..
Indeed. I've heard this more than once. There's a guy who lives aboard at his dock all summer at my YC and then moves back to Western New York for the winter. He's been doing it for years, as far as I know. But then I don't think we have any particular injunction against using your boat in whatever fashion you see fit during the season. We are more concerned you get the heck out of the basin before the ice hardens.
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I stay aboard from mid March to after thanksgiving, there is one other guy who does the same. I'am to big a wuss to stay all winter so I go home, this time next year I'am planning on heading far enough south to ease the pain of winter. I have called a couple of marinas & asked questions about staying aboard during the winter, they both left water & pump out facilities on during winter & didn't mention anything about not being able to staying aboard when I told them of my intent. I will leave the boat & go home for the holidays. In April or May I'll head back up the river or somewhere else.
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I lived on my boat for eleven months in a marina that doesn't allow liveaboards. I asked the harbormaster about it first and he said, "As long as I can't tell you're living on your boat, as far as I'm concerned, you're not. When I can tell, we will have a problem."
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Re: Liveaboard Sneakaboard

I never made a secret of living aboard for the last 15 years we were aboard. Paid an additional couple of hundred a month as I recall. Made friends with marina management and helped out when needed.
Group9's comment above, is really instructive.
Back in the 60's , there was a strict rule in British Columbia that living aboard was prohibited on Government docks up and down the coast unless you were leaving the next day. I was a decky on a fairly large towboat and it was really my only home. If we were layed over waiting for a tow, the skipper and mate would fly home in a trusty Otter, and I stayed with the boat, sometimes for a week or two.
I was washing the deck down one weekend and the local government dock manager came down and asked me if I was living aboard. When I confirmed that I was, he said he was going to get the local RCMP officer and have me removed.
I called the skipper on the pay phone at the top of the dock and he said I was the ships caretaker and to stay aboard. The whole issue blew up when the skipper and mate showed up a couple of days later and the skipper informed the RCMP and government dock manager that we were the sole source of supplying the community with fuel oil for the power plant and if they wanted to screw around the whole village would be without power in the winter months and would be informed who was at fault. Never had a problem again even though I stayed aboard for sometimes weeks at a time. The RCMP officer even bought me a beer in the pub a few days later when he was off duty.
Some folks are just inflated with their own importance (tall poppies) and need to be cut down to size. They seem to gravitate to positions of authority and should be taken on at every opportunity.
Keeping a low profile under most circumstances is a pretty good idea IMO. Phil
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Re: Liveaboard Sneakaboard

I think too it depends on the size of the vessel. Do you think they ask a yacht owner of a 100'r if they're living aboard?

I lived aboard in Mission Bay (San Diego-Hyatt Islandia) for two years. And as long as I kept the boat up and looking non live aboard, the Dock Master said nothing. After help saving a large boat from sinking one night he was very friendly towards me for the rest of my stay.
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In addition to low profile, I find bringing donuts on Friday morning or beer to workers in the afternoon or whiskey to the harbor master on Friday night greased the skids a lot. Also anchoring out once a week helped.
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