Originally Posted by Lance835
Thanks to all. I know we have a lot to learn and take safety
serious and therefore will never "out sail" our abilities. We have several friends who are experienced sailors who will be advising and teaching us.
I think we are leaning toward the Ketch
Is there more living space aboard a ketch
versus other boats. We like some of the older boats with the heavier teak
cabinets. They appear to be tough and would take everyday abuse better. I build fine furniture for a hobby and will be taking some yatch interior
building course (possibly at the Port Townsend shool of boat building).
Thanks to all again. You have been very helpful.
The teak interior
on our boat is very beautiful, and I enjoy living in it. I always feel a little cramped because I am still decompressing from having lived in large houses - raised in a 4000 sf home, then lived in a couple of 1500 sq ft homes, a 2500 sq ft home and finished out in a 1700 sq ft home right before we moved on board. However, that said, a 42' boat is a big boat! and for a boat it is roomy. I miss having a real kitchen the most, but I am adjusting.
Quit worrying about the speed and keeping up with others. I doubt that will really make a difference to you once you are aboard. What you will like about your larger boat, which will be 40' or more with a ketch, is how stable it is. Very nice. I'm no longer missing a catamaran
for that reason. There just is not that much heel under most normal conditions in these larger yachts. Of course, if you want square footage, just go get a catamaran
and be done with it, if you can afford one in good condition (there are cheap
ones out there but they are project
boats that will cost you the same in the end anyway - $250K for 38' to 42' fixed up)
If you make it to Port Townsend, send me a private message and come over and look at our boat. We will very likely have it up on the hard
this winter in Port Townsend, getting the rigging
replaced, the mast
inspected, the fuel tank
replaced, the head
replaced or repaired,....on and on. We would be happy to show you our boat, as we will be living on it on the hard
One thing to look for in a live aboard or cruising vessel is the size of the cockpit
- which is basically the recreation room equivalent on a boat. It needs to be "relatively speaking" - large. A small cockpit
won't be fun if you are living on the boat.
A last tip is to look for boats in the late 70's and early 80's because they have solid fiberglass
hulls and the wonderful teak interiors. You can't get em like that anymore - at least not the solid glass hulls - unless you have them custom made for big bucks. Our surveyor
noted that a replacement cost for our boat is $400,000 new, but we paid $85K for it. A very reasonable price
for a boat this size with such lasting qualities. It was in very nice aesthetic condition when we bought it, so we haven't had to live in an ugly or uncomfortable boat while we replace aging systems.
Right now, we are beginning to estimate how much it will cost us to replace and upgrade all the systems we want to tweak. We could just keep on keeping on with what we have, but we want to take it to Alaska
and possibly the South Pacific
. We need a very robustly maintained and upgraded vessel for that. So far, I have conservatively estimated $35000 to complete this vessel to the level I want. So, based on my experience in the past with my conservative estimates, that means about $50,000. Add it up - that's a bargain price
for a luxurious, robust 42' passage
maker, ketch or otherwise.
Cheers and happy hunting