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Old 30-10-2013, 19:02   #61
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I do think somewhere south of the baha was mentioned to do it. But it appears you got to find a place that's not so environmental as Cali is. You won't get it done there without harassment it seems. Unless you do haul it out if you can't go far appears the only way considering where you are. Or get a really big tent and lay a tarp town?

I never lived in Cali but their environmental standards are so tough they have changed the trucking industry there and rendering older running diesels not allowed to run in that state.
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It's not a fair comparison. Fast bottom risks his health if he doesn't follow OSHA regs., the OP risks yours, mine and his if he breaks the law.
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The OP was called ignorant, ROFLMAO'd, told he shouldn't have a boat.

Thought I was at SA for a minute.

And I would think there were 2 potential customers for somebody.


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Cali? really?
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Re: Hippie haul out

DJImprov,

Sounds like the only real option is to haul out if you're gonna sand. The haulout and blocking to sand and re-paint will run you a couple hundred bucks.

Here's a good write-up on the finer points of careening though: The Delicate Art of Careening - SailNet Community
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Re: Hippie haul out

OSHA and Cal-OSHA applies to businesses with employees, not to self employed individuals, which covers most divers.
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Umm... If you're talking about the comment I made, that was not directed at the OP. In fact, it was not directed at anybody in particular. You seem to like to bend the facts to suit your needs.
Wow. What an intellectually dishonest response.

You said some harsh things and might not be entirely accurate. Please give some references for what you have claimed. Show me where it says you can't careen to affect repairs and maintenance. Show me where it says you can't scape loose paint off the boat if you collect the scrapings and don't impact the environment. I can believe that you can't sand without a containment. But that is not what was asked by the OP. He just wanted to repaint. Again, show me where it says you can't do that.

From an environmental perspective what he is proposing could have far less impact than cleaning boat bottoms. He could use modern noncopper paint that is fast drying. While you are cleaning copper bottom paint releasing the copper to the environment.

Some of the harsh treatment of the OP is just uncalled for. He asked an honest question. Let's try to be better than what was displayed here.

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So, if the OP can't afford a haulout, it's an excuse to break the law?

No different for you. Like you said, if you can't afford to clean bottoms within the regulations, you shouldn't be doing it.

The regulations, both environmental and Occupational Safety, make no allowances for their economic impact.

Seems you are selective about the ones that apply to you.


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