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Old 30-01-2014, 23:12   #31
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Re: Help! Too cold, Condensation, sick, need info

You could also try tea lights under flower pots.

Use Candles and Flower Pots to Heat a Small Room More Effectively
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Old 30-01-2014, 23:20   #32
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Re: Help! Too Cold, Condensation, Sick, Need Info

Oh come on... this just gets stupid.
this forum is an incredible wealth of knowledge. but here in lies a problem
Does anyone actually think the OP has a generator or an Espar Heating system?
This cat is burning a candle at both ends trying to survive. (yes that is my assumption).
Personally i pray he/she gets off the damn boat and figures out what to do.
A homeless shelter is better then death.
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Re: Help! Too Cold, Condensation, Sick, Need Info

Actually candles under flower pots do work for heaters.




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Old 30-01-2014, 23:35   #34
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Re: Help! Too Cold, Condensation, Sick, Need Info

Long term solution if you are going to anchor out in winter conditions is to look at a diesel stove installation. Big cast iron hot plate good chimney and ventilation will keep things dry and warm

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Actually candles under flower pots do work for heaters.




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Yes, but burning candles also puts combustion products into the cabin air, so use sparingly and with caution. It's a very small amount of heat which I doubt will make much of a dent in the OP's problem.

By the way, not mentioned here but relevant to the original question -- propane is especially awful as an unvented heat source on a boat because unlike candles, propane is mostly hydrogen. So when you burn propane, you put a large amount of water into the cabin air.

I never use my propane stove, myself, unless a hatch is open and/or exhaust ventilation is running. Otherwise the cabin air is fouled in very short order.
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Actually candles under flower pots do work for heaters.




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yep i've done this
frankly getting good and drunk is much safer.
I'd personally never advice either....
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Old 31-01-2014, 00:32   #37
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After 36....37 posts i hope the OP is still reading this and decides to get off their boat.
We'll see you in the spring out sailing.
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A VERY strong warning sign of CO poisoning is headaches and feeling sick, CO is cumulative and does not leave the body easily. Read this

CDC - Carbon Monoxide Poisoning - Frequently Asked Questions
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Wow this forum is great. really expected the OP to get slammed. I went through a similar situation. I had more money than I ever had in my life but I wanted to save it for my new boat. I brought a boat up from Florida to Maryland and I left in November. It had no heat but I thought I was Superman. If I had it to do over again I woulda bought a kerosene heater. They put out so much heat you can leave all the hatches open. I'm not recommending this because in a small space they might get things around it too hot. But one thing I can highly recommend is a hot water bottle. after you fill with boiling water wrap it in a thick towel and it will last the night under blankets with you. Good luck Joe
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Maryland in November?
Sorry champ you don't know what winter is
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Re: Help! Too Cold, Condensation, Sick, Need Info

If you absolutely have to use a hydrocarbon based heater, good ventilation is the key-- as so many have already said. And once you have the knowledge about how lethal they are, it can be "sleeping scared," always worried about fumes. I got quite ill from carbon monoxide poisoning with a kerosene heater back in the day when they first became popular. I thought I had flu but the headaches and nausea symptoms were from the stove in another room.

Somebody mentioned a wood burning stove as an alternative. On a more humorous note I had one on a new-to-me boat and made the mistake of trying it out for the first time when getting underway. I left the companionway hatch open and sailed away, into the wind. Wrong. Apparently the resulting lower air pressure in the cabin caused it to suck smoke from the stove and fill the cabin with thick wood smoke. It looked like the boat was on fire, with smoke billowing out all the hatches and portholes I had to open. Embarrassing.

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Re: Help! Too Cold, Condensation, Sick, Need Info

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Oh come on... this just gets stupid.
this forum is an incredible wealth of knowledge. but here in lies a problem
Does anyone actually think the OP has a generator or an Espar Heating system?
This cat is burning a candle at both ends trying to survive. (yes that is my assumption).
Personally i pray he/she gets off the damn boat and figures out what to do.
A homeless shelter is better then death.
Exactly why I told him to go live with a friend. WAY too many gotchas here

I was miserable in far more benign situations and this is not an easy fix. I've done it, but it took work and time. Better to withdraw, regroup, re attack in the future.
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Re: Help! Too Cold, Condensation, Sick, Need Info

You want to put a "Charlie Noble" on top of your stove pipe, that helps keep the smoke from siphoning back in or the wind blowing it back down, plus if you are the inventor type, you could engineer a way for it to generate electricity while it spins around. If you want to go real low tech., get you a couple of big siberian huskies and put them in the bed with you, or another person, space blankets help reflect the heat. I too would consider moving further south. Which is what even a duck does, and his head is no wider than your thumb . Any kind of insulation will help your situation, even cardboard, or newspapers. There is so much foam used in packaging anymore you might be able to scround some from a large appliance store's dumpster, they also have large sections of cardboard, bags of styrofoam popcorn, anything that will create a dead air space with help keep you warmer.
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Re: Help! Too Cold, Condensation, Sick, Need Info

Perhaps you could enlighten us as to the configuration of your vessel and your situation as much as you are comfortable with sharing, so we might be able to fine tune our free advice (which is worth what it costs.) .
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