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Old 09-11-2014, 19:56   #136
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Re: Help! Too Cold, Condensation, Sick, Need Info

A bulkhead mounted kero heater, like a Taylor, uses a 1" diameter flue and needs no additional venting.
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Old 09-11-2014, 22:00   #137
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Let's hope the OP is still following the thread, 'cause some coooold weather is on it's way!

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If you have a job locally, talk to the local marinas to see if they can give you a deal for the winter. Even if it's part time minimum wage, you should be able to come up with $2-300/month and that solves a large part of your issue as electric heat becomes an option.

If you don't have a job locally, get south during the next decent weather window. I would recommend at least getting down into northern florida if not further south. There will still be some cold nights but better than further north.

Yeah, the meek inherit the earth and all that but God helps those who help themselves. Anchoring out without a quality heating system is at best miserable. At worst...
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Re: Help! Too Cold, Condensation, Sick, Need Info

Wasn't this last years thread, or am I confused?
Same guy?
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Old 10-11-2014, 07:04   #140
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Re: Help! Too Cold, Condensation, Sick, Need Info

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Is a propane catalytic heater much different from a propane catalytic stove?
We know the stove's catalytic device creates a lot of moisture in the air, which is a big problem for using it for heat in the winter.

But, don't those little Mr Buddy propane heaters have the exact same sort of catalytic element mechanism? Do catalytic propane heater elements put out as much moisture as those propane stove elements, or does it use a different catalyst & create a dry-heat?
Any combustion heater will leave waste products in the exhaust. Those products will include un-burned hydrocarbons, water and carbon monoxide. Even with catalytic heaters that do an OK job of reducing the CO emmissions there will be lots of water. Also the heater uses oxygen which leaves the cabin atmosphere oxygen depleted. Even if the CO doesn't get you, hypoxia might.

You need a heater that vents outside the cabin several reasons.
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Wasn't this last years thread, or am I confused?
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Same guy. Fall is here so people are thinking of staying warm
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Old 10-11-2014, 08:18   #142
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I would have thought he would either have had heat, or moved to warmer climes by now?
He seemed really sick and miserable last winter, you can only take just so much of that.
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Re: Help! Too Cold, Condensation, Sick, Need Info

Changing interior air often is a must, for oxygen. Moisture removal is facilitated by exchange. Remote heat source and multiple cores, placed throughout the vessel seems the best way to Zone Heat and dry the air. Fresh air pulled through a core would be best for heated fresh air. All exhaust, overboard.! HHO fueled boiler/water heater & lots of solar for HHO generation and circulation pumps and blowers. All low voltage units. Insulate lines to control heat loss, except in plumbing areas. Recycled or new Automotive heater cores and the low voltage computer blowers should suffice.


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Old 10-11-2014, 09:33   #144
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Re: Help! Too Cold, Condensation, Sick, Need Info

For anyone in a similar situation, I have a Dickinson Newport solid-fuel fireplace for sale on Ebay. Complete with stovepipe, damper, chimney, and insulating panels.

Can be picked up in Indiantown, FL, or Bethesda, MD, depending on when it sells. Sorry, no shipping (but you might be able to talk me into it).

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Strange that man hasn't solved this issue by now w/ all the technology we have. Whenever you light up a heater using a fossil fuel, most of the heat goes out the window w/ a chimney or creates too much moisture & fumes w/out one.
This is far from true. Efficient heat exchangers are required, and many space heating furnaces are over 95% efficient. My simple bulkhead heater is ~ 90% efficient (measured).

The key is to control the draft so that excess air is not heated and exhausted (damper or just good design), and enough heat transfer surface to keep the flue temperature below ~ 400F. Some home furnaces keep the flue >150F, actually condensing the water in the exhaust. A fan directed at the flue pipe can help.

I am dumbfounded that ANYONE would risk using an unvented heater in a boat. A barn, for short periods, when work without gloves is needed, but that is it.
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I found a 1000 watt gen at fred meyer for $129. Been using it for 4 years. Was told it would not last 1 season and shoujld have bought the honda. Still runs great.

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Re: Help! Too Cold, Condensation, Sick, Need Info

This is going in my next boat.

ShipMate Stove Company Inc. - your source for classic solid fuel boat stoves, heaters and sinks.

I don't like mummy style sleeping bags. I got 2 big rectangle bags rated for 15 degrees, unzipped flat. If one isn't enough, both are. My boat can get cold and I still sleep warm. Sometimes my feet get a little chilly up in the pointy end of the vee berth, and I pull on some wool blend socks. A hood salvaged from an old goose down parka is a lot more comfortable than a watch cap or balaclava. I am good without heat down to about 10 degrees, I think. But that shipmate stove sure looks nice!
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