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Old 20-02-2013, 09:01   #1
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We are brand new to the sailing community. Are in the proccess of looking for a used boat to live aboard then sail to where the wind takes us. It is myself, my wife, and our 12 yr old son. We live up in Hamilton Ontario Canada and plan to live aboard for about four years till we set sail. We are looking around 40' ketch. Any and all help would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 20-02-2013, 09:08   #2
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Old 20-02-2013, 09:14   #3
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We are brand new to the sailing community. Are in the proccess of looking for a used boat to live aboard then sail to where the wind takes us. It is myself, my wife, and our 12 yr old son. We live up in Hamilton Ontario Canada and plan to live aboard for about four years till we set sail. We are looking around 40' ketch. Any and all help would be greatly appreciated.
I'm with you right up til the live-aboard part... wintering onboard in the Hammer?

Not knocking Hamilton... lived there for 8 years, married a native, even . It's just that whole... winter thing.
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Old 20-02-2013, 09:27   #4
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Hmmm.. Am I looking at this right? Today's low in Hamilton was -14C and the projected high will be -5C.

I'm guessing there aren't any palm trees at the marina?

Few boats are designed to be comfy in that kind of cold. The colder it gets, the smaller they shrink. (Yes, I'm talking about boats.)

Liveaboard Rule #1: Keep sailing until you get to where the palm trees grow.
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No worries Paul. We live aboard in Portland, Maine and do just fine. Welcome and good luck in your search.
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Old 20-02-2013, 10:03   #6
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You might want to consider a steel hull...both for the safety aspect offshore (lots of nasties floating in the ocean) as well as the fact that many steel hulls have a sprayed on layer of foam insulation inside the hull that would make it much more tolerable from a live aboard perspective. I wouldn't get hung up on the ketch idea too much...I know the smaller sails are appealing for handling purposes, but that will dramatically cut down the number of boats available to you.
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Liveaboard Rule #1: Keep sailing until you get to where the palm trees grow.
I thought it was, sail south until the butter melts.
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I'm not a parent, so take anything I might say with a grain of salt...

My thoughts on optimum cruising age is something like 5 to 14ish. Younger than that is do-able, but the kids won't have the memories (we're still thinking of head out under 5, because we're selfish that way). Once they get up to the teen years, it starts to become much more important for them to start developing relationships outside the family unit, I think.

Have you done any charters or other distance cruising to make sure everybody's "on board", so to speak? They're going to have to be pretty committed to live aboard anywhere in Canada, never mind Hamilton.


Oh, and I wouldn't get too caught up in the ketch thing, either.
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We are wintering aboard at Royal Hamilton Yacht Club right now and have been liveaboards for 16 years. drop by and see us. Second boat you can see (shrink wrapped) from the gate at the east side of the clubhouse. Excuse me for a second, I have to turn down the thermostat its getting too hot in here

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Thanks for the welcome, we are pretty excited about joining the community. We will come and visit you this weekend if that is good with you.
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A couple of people said don't get to caught up with the ketch is there a reason for that or should we just keep our minds more open?
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Thanks for the welcome, we are pretty excited about joining the community. We will come and visit you this weekend if that is good with you.

Anytime Saturday, Sunday I may be gone for most of the day, not sure yet
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A couple of people said don't get to caught up with the ketch is there a reason for that or should we just keep our minds more open?
There are great ketches out there. And great cutters and great sloops. Don't get too caught up in the old school. There might be a reason just about all modern boats are sloops. I certainly wouldn't discount them
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BoatPoker, I thought you usually wintered in Port Credit.
Anyway Paul, it is not a bad thing wintering over up here.
I have been here in Frenchmans Bay, Pickering, for 10 years
as have about 40 other full time liveaboards.
It is more about the amenities and how a marina is set up to handle
winter business than anything else.
Here I have cable, winterised water lines right to the boat and travelling
pumpout so the only reason to go to the shower house is for laundry.
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