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Old 16-08-2015, 00:18   #16
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Re: Do I need a bigger sailboat for liveaboard?

shurite,

Jim and I found our 30 footer too small for permanent liveaboard and cruising. The 30' boat in question was a Yankee 30. 36 feet worked for us for 18 yrs., both while working ashore and while cruising.

Most likely, your GF will do a whole lot better if she is involved in things from the get-go, if you think she's a keeper. If not, best break up before it gets to the bitterness stage. Feminists used to say, "Men are like trolleys, there'll be another one along soon." I bet it's the same with the genders reversed. ;-)

If you're the one who knows the most about boats, then she can't be too involved, lacking the knowledge base. Actually, if she's the kind of gal who loves cooking and "homemaking", find out what she thinks she could do to make it all "nicer." Of that, see what fits for you, then negotiate. You're going to need to keep those skills alive, anyhow.

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Old 16-08-2015, 18:38   #17
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Never ask your GF about a boat. You got 30' she's happy now so no reason to. If you have to ask her something ask her to select new set of dish and linen.
Get a smaller boat so you get closer!
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No doubt, that's how I wound up on my current boat and we don't even live on the bloody thing anymore. She does make for a fine floating cottage now though.

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Old 17-08-2015, 18:43   #18
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Re: Do I need a bigger sailboat for liveaboard?

I think a lot of those that ponder size feels that smaller is Better or easier to handle. I tend to disagree. I have been living aboard for over 7 yrs now on a older 52 ft Irwin Ketch. Has it always been better or easier? No. Would I go smaller? Not on your life. It's not only a matter of comfort but safety. Having been caught out in open water in bad weather you will appreciate the larger heavier boat. The motion is slower. It handles bad weather imho better for those times you didn't plan right. But as always the only one that can make the call is you.


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Old 18-08-2015, 06:36   #19
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Re: Do I need a bigger sailboat for liveaboard?

Quick and best answer.....buy the 97 Caliber 40 listed on this site and all your questions will be answered!
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Re: Do I need a bigger sailboat for liveaboard?

There is no phrase that I hear shared among cruisers more than, "Everything is a compromise!"

The bigger boat has more stability and comfort, but more expense and often more physical efforts; more speed with water line and less maneuverability at the docks; a better ride at anchor, but fewer places to anchor. The list is endless and continues with all systems! ..... move the radar higher, more windage aloft; deeper keel for performance, no gunkholing; taller rig, fixed bridges.............

When you choose what you want you are choosing what you are giving up!
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When you choose what you want you are choosing what you are giving up!
Is that the "married man's lament"..?
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I am a biased Freedom Yacht Fan. My F-32 has more space below than many 36s. Simplicity will be appreciated as we all get older. Want to tack? Simply turn the wheel and the self-tending jib does the rest. Need to reef? It is simply accomplished from the cockpit. Freedoms come with less... and that is a good thing. No chainplates, no shrouds, no standing rigging, only two winches, both operated from the cockpit. This is only a partial list of items that do not need to be serviced or replaced because they simply are not on board! There will be nay-sayers that say it does not point high enough. Are you racing or cruising? Believe me, you will not miss the 5 degrees either way unless you are a pincher. Not sure of the NW availability of Freedoms but do not dismiss them. There is a great QnA at freedomyachts.org.
Look for Freedom 32, 35, 36 or 38 (sloops only). Even your GF will be happy.
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LOL Teddy......That advice sounds like it came from hard experience......

Always found it easier to listen first and influence after...... End of the day....you both need to be happy if this stands a chance of working.
Aye, but donít most sailors tend to want to do things the hard way?

The easy way is to buy a big boat, hire someone to maintain it, and turn the key when you wish to use it.
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Re: Do I need a bigger sailboat for liveaboard?

Skipping a lot of responses to add my 2Ęz

LOD is a poor measurement of boat size, especially interior space. Look at DISPLACEMENT, that is a far better indicator of size.

So what DISPLACEMENT is your 30’er? If you want double the space/volume look to one with twice the displacement, damn the LOD.

Not saying anything above is a wrong, just adding an alternative (better ) way of doing a one point evaluation.
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LOL Teddy......That advice sounds like it came from hard experience......

Always found it easier to listen first and influence after...... End of the day....you both need to be happy if this stands a chance of working.
Old thread but might be worth of second life..
Influence, let it come from elsewhere but not from you. Just try to control what influence she gets. Let it sink and then listen what you wanted to hear in the first place
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