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Old 11-04-2014, 03:10   #31
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Re: Decision TIME to live aboard or not

Originally Posted by Sailing Kiwis View Post
For us, selling the house and investing those funds saves us 6k a year in expense and earns 4k or more in interest. That's 10k a year difference. No property managers to worry a bout and no maintaince to pay for. Seems a win to me. If we decide to stop cruising money plus interest is still sitting there waiting for us....

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A good plan and the $10k saving going to the boat can work if the boat is already a liveaboard in good condition. On a 45ft boat one can spend $5k on haul-out and paint. A few $k on sails. A few $k on cockpit upgrade. A few $k on batteries. A few $k on new alternator. A few $k on solar power. A few $k on diesel heating. A few $k on new fridge installation etc etc. All this is in addition to marina fees.
A surveyor report will give you some idea of condition but advice from another liveaboard would be helpful too.

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Old 11-04-2014, 13:48   #32

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Re: Decision TIME to live aboard or not

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Tina, similar to what Satdiver said, consider an alternative to binary sell/buy a house and look at a broader financial picture.

There are many ways to handle your money and many opinions on the best way for you. Of course while you should listen to (some of) them with care, none of the opinions really matter other than yours, provided you are comfortable with financial planning and have some resources to work with. As you are considering this kind of life, I assume this to be the case.

Having cash tied up in static assets is not necessarily a bad thing provided it is earning for the long run. Steady stable tenants, blue chips with DRIPs, etc should be the focus, and not what all the talking heads shout about during their financial sound bite. While some people can make good money "playing" real estate and the markets, you don't want the worry while you are trying to enjoy/learn your new live aboard lifestyle.

As far as the actual decision to live aboard goes, my advice is to try it now, so as to not be disappointed you didn't later.

My wife and are have just started our own 5-year plan to get there as well.

Good luck to you.
Also good advice, I should have said real estate is not the only investment. It's the one I choose personally although I also dabble a bit in other investments. The thing I mainly wanted to point out is having a back up plan and a financial cushion or some form of something I think is a requirement IMHO unless you're in your 20's or 30's just mucking about.

In my years living aboard I've seen couples and families financially level themselves selling the kit'n kaboodle for a boat. Unless one person is a shipwright and the other is a mechanic with two kids one being a rigger and the other a sailmaker you're going to need help or in the years to come things are going to start failing.

I can't see enjoying the lifestyle without some sorta cushion for emergencies or catastrophic failures.

I understand some people consider themselves a Jack of all trades but when one really sits back and gets honest with themselves they know what they really can handle and what they (should) outsource.

A sailboat is a complex vehicle and requires many skill sets to properly maintain hence the word properly. One of the most important words good boat/yacht owners know that have the best maintained and safest vessels is (delegate). If you're going to live on a boat you're going to be using all of it's systems on a regular basis which means more maintenance than if you're week ending or cruising a few weeks a year. No book or even 40 years of doing it can teach you everything you need to know.

Finances are always a hot topic in the cruising world and that's why I made it my goal when I was younger to position myself so it was not something I needed to constantly worry about. I'm not rich but I know no matter what happens to my boat, no matter where I take it and no matter what fails I can handle it without breaking the bank and it makes the lifestyle much more enjoyable.

It's all common sense if you work at retail store and have no assets you don't go buy a Aston Martin same goes for a boat. I've seen people sell their house and buy 40+ foot boats making 35k a year in annuities and guess where most of them stay.? The Dock or the Mooring. They are typically the ones that have been "outfitting" their boat for 5+ years for the big cruise only to have cautiously motored around the Harbor a few times total. There is nothing wrong with that and I've seen many happy people doing exactly this but it would not be my first choice in lifestyle. The truth is first Identifying how you as a couple, family or single person identify with the word adventure. For some it's gunkholing, for others it's crossing oceans and for many it's just living in a marina. I can see the appeal of each one but for me if I can't afford to cruise through out the year without financial woes I'd rather live on land.

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Old 17-04-2014, 21:18   #33
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Re: Decision TIME to live aboard or not

Originally Posted by tinacatling View Post
Hello Ann
thank you
Yes we both love sailing and are thinking of a 45 ish yacht
we also both love the idea of a simpler life with much less 'stuff' we love dogs and people and the wind in our hair
we love not working in corporate world anymore and we LOVE adventure
particularly the feeling of casting off and leaving port
we do want to take the dogs with us

Allyson and I live aboard a 45 foot boat with a small dog and are very comfortable. I would not recommend anything under 40 feet for you and the dogs. My advice is look for what you like, find a great surveyor, and then enjoy life. That is what we did and are very happy, you will get a lot of advise both pro and con about any boat you like. Find the forum or email group for the boat you like and ask for advice. They will be glad to help you. I use the Yahoo Columbia Group all the time for support.

Remember it is better when your time is up to say "I am glad I did that" rather than to say "I wish I had done that"!
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Being on board is always better that being run aground...

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