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Old 24-06-2016, 13:41   #121
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Re: Convincing wife to liveaboard?

And in both cases, you, too, seem to be having fun.

That's what it's all about.

When I'd interview folks as new hires, somewhere along the way I'd drop in "And we have fun here at work." Those that looked askance rarely got hired.
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This seems to indicate that perhaps you selected the wrong person as a partner.

Doesn't anybody "vet" their spouses anymore?

Hell, how'd ya meet them to begin with? In their bar or nail salon?
I had this same thought! Oldragbaggers described above, the nature of women that are prone to thrive on a sailboat. When I met my future wife, I was quick to notice that she was accustomed to operating a motorcycle bigger than mine!

I would not be surprised to find out that many men spend more time deciding what type of boat to buy than who they marry! I've always been with a plan and I'm not ashamed to say that as a young man I spent a lot of time researching women!

I'm not just a lucky guy living aboard 44 years with a lady excited about cruising. This was a carefully executed plan!

I don't want to come off acting like I was "shopping in the market for a spouse" as if I were squeezing fruit! ...... but YES! This is a critical choice. 'and I read huge numbers of posts about which is the right anchor.
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And in both cases, you, too, seem to be having fun.

That's what it's all about.

When I'd interview folks as new hires, somewhere along the way I'd drop in "And we have fun here at work." Those that looked askance rarely got hired.
I have no idea how hiring and picking a wife is remotely connected?
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I had this same thought! Oldragbaggers described above, the nature of women that are prone to thrive on a sailboat. When I met my future wife, I was quick to notice that she was accustomed to operating a motorcycle bigger than mine!

I would not be surprised to find out that many men spend more time deciding what type of boat to buy than who they marry! I've always been with a plan and I'm not ashamed to say that as a young man I spent a lot of time researching women!

I'm not just a lucky guy living aboard 44 years with a lady excited about cruising. This was a carefully executed plan!

I don't want to come off acting like I was "shopping in the market for a spouse" as if I were squeezing fruit! ...... but YES! This is a critical choice. 'and I read huge numbers of posts about which is the right anchor.
So True.....and the main reason is that we use different organs when thinking about women vs boats...
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Old 24-06-2016, 15:22   #125
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Quote: "I have no idea how hiring and picking a wife is remotely connected?"

Really :-0)???

Next time I get on a history-kick, I'm gonna have to spin a yarn about how it USTA be - even in my grandparents' time, in the more remote corners of the Western World, where a household was indeed very much of an "economic unit" - a "business".

As the peasants of my native Denmark became citified (in Queen Vicky's time), they began to ape the mores of the "gentry" of Blighty. They'd NO idea of what life was like for the Pommy proletariat slaving in the "dark satanic mills" of Manchester and, thank the Lord of your choice, Denmark never became industrialized in the same sense, or to the same extent, as did England and Germany.

In consequence of the cultural diffusion that occurred in the late 1800s, the sound business foundation for marriage that had existed theretofore fell victim to bizarre ideas involving such untenable notions as "marrying for love". Among Danes I've been known to refer to that syndrome as "malignant anglophilia". But that was before the telly came to the land and spread even more bizarre notions :-)!

But consider that in France the cinq-a-sept is still a viable institution ;-)

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Quote: "I have no idea how hiring and picking a wife is remotely connected?"

Really :-0)???

Next time I get on a history-kick, I'm gonna have to spin a yarn about how it USTA be - even in my grandparents' time, in the more remote corners of the Western World, where a household was indeed very much of an "economic unit" - a "business".

As the peasants of my native Denmark became citified (in Queen Vicky's time), they began to ape the mores of the "gentry" of Blighty. They'd NO idea of what life was like for the Pommy proletariat slaving in the "dark satanic mills" of Manchester and, thank the Lord of your choice, Denmark never became industrialized in the same sense, or to the same extent, as did England and Germany.

In consequence of the cultural diffusion that occurred in the late 1800s, the sound business foundation for marriage that had existed theretofore fell victim to bizarre ideas involving such untenable notions as "marrying for love". Among Danes I've been known to refer to that syndrome as "malignant anglophilia". But that was before the telly came to the land and spread even more bizarre notions :-)!

But consider that in France the cinq-a-sept is still a viable institution ;-)

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But we are no longer in the 1800s. To often wives are picked with the little head not the big head. I'm sure the reverse is also true. I just can't see the connection to hiring. Bring a resume?
My Farmor never expressed that about Denmark.
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As to work, the old folks homes are full of women with rings on most of their fingers. One for every man they worked into an early grave or ripped off in the courts.
I think the above is a misrepresentation. It is futile to blame the woman for the decisions the man made, and actually, quite an offensive allegation, at least to me.

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Re: Convincing wife to liveaboard?

The one dimensional choice is stupid! As an example, in keeping with how people shop for an anchor, you can find the anchor that fits on your bow roller; looks bright and shiny; is the proper weight and also has good holding in a variety of substrates. ..... and sailors will spend time making the proper choice.

Only an idiot looks for "Jessica Rabbit" and overlooks all else!

I need to apologize to all the ladies as I speak of evaluating women with such a harsh analogy, but the reciprocal is also true. I'm sure there are a great number of good looking men that have little to offer as a lifetime partner.

Why not choose all that is best?
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As to work, the old folks homes are full of women with rings on most of their fingers. One for every man they worked into an early grave or ripped off in the courts.
Oh my! This could not be further from the truth! My hubby was CEO of hospitals and nursing homes for almost 45 years.
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I think the above is a misrepresentation. It is futile to blame the woman for the decisions the man made, and actually, quite an offensive allegation, at least to me.

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Ann, I wonder if he is single?!
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Old 24-06-2016, 16:42   #131
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Re: Convincing wife to liveaboard?

Whoever commented about saying men probably spend more time analyzing and researching for the right boat versus a mate I think is pretty true. Funny too!

We haven't had much response from the OP. How is it going since you posted this? Make any headway???

Someone mentioned to charter - great idea! Maybe search out some youtube vids about liveaboard lifestyle and weekend cruising too?
Don't forget - when you go boat shopping include her all the way! When you get down to a few hire a shipwright with carpentry and systems skills - he/she may be able to modify the boat to any specific home comforts she may like enough to agree to get onboard. Ex. My superman shipwright installed the radios subwoofer behind a back cushion that provides enough vibration it is like a massage - it's amazing!
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Re: Convincing wife to liveaboard?

The OP came back once, said he'd shared the thread with his good lady, and that they had had some good laughs over some of the comments. The issue is going to take a while, it is a process they'll be undergoing.

As to the notion that women don't like hand pump toilets, I have to laugh. Women understand the necessities of excretory function. I sure as heck prefer a manual toilet over one that can fail due to a poor connection. Ah, well, each to his/her own.

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This seems to indicate that perhaps you selected the wrong person as a partner.

Doesn't anybody "vet" their spouses anymore?

Hell, how'd ya meet them to begin with? In their bar or nail salon?
Well, 27 years ago we (I) weren't thinking about sailing around the world(Id already done half of it) or living aboard(Been there done that too). But a few years ago a small seed of an idea was planted somehow (don't really know what it was) and it started to grow. There has been a lot of rain the past few months. The plant is really starting to flourish.
So here is what has really blown the idea up lately.
Cancer.(wife) diabetes(me)
It has made me start thinking about how short life can be and isn't it better to live it freely rather than being a slave....... for what?
wakeup go to work come home and have a beer eat dinner sit and watch TV for a couple hours take a shower fix next days breakfast and lunch go to bed
wakeup go to work come home and have a beer eat dinner sit and watch TV for a couple hours take a shower fix next days breakfast and lunch go to bed
wakeup go to work come home and have a beer eat dinner sit and watch TV for a couple hours take a shower fix next days breakfast and lunch go to bed ..........................
My wife is angry that cancer "interrupted" her life.
What life?

P.S. she is fine. 4 more years on a pill that makes her hurt all over then she's done.
But what then?
Continue with
wakeup go to work come home and have a beer eat dinner sit and watch TV for a couple hours take a shower fix next days breakfast and lunch go to bed wakeup go to work come home and have a beer eat dinner sit and watch TV for a couple hours take a shower fix next days breakfast and lunch go to bed wakeup go to work come home and have a beer eat dinner sit and watch TV for a couple hours take a shower fix next days breakfast and lunch go to bed
So you can have a house and a car and a motorcycle and cable and internet and guitars? Pay the Electric bill to run the AC?
Whats the point?
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Quote: "I have no idea how hiring and picking a wife is remotely connected?"

Really :-0)???

Next time I get on a history-kick, I'm gonna have to spin a yarn about how it USTA be - even in my grandparents' time, in the more remote corners of the Western World, where a household was indeed very much of an "economic unit" - a "business".

As the peasants of my native Denmark became citified (in Queen Vicky's time), they began to ape the mores of the "gentry" of Blighty. They'd NO idea of what life was like for the Pommy proletariat slaving in the "dark satanic mills" of Manchester and, thank the Lord of your choice, Denmark never became industrialized in the same sense, or to the same extent, as did England and Germany.

In consequence of the cultural diffusion that occurred in the late 1800s, the sound business foundation for marriage that had existed theretofore fell victim to bizarre ideas involving such untenable notions as "marrying for love". Among Danes I've been known to refer to that syndrome as "malignant anglophilia". But that was before the telly came to the land and spread even more bizarre notions :-)!

But consider that in France the cinq-a-sept is still a viable institution ;-)

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Quote: "My Farmor never expressed that about Denmark."

Don't recall that my Farmor did either, even tho she was keenly interested in sociology. Could be true nevertheless ;-)

The "performance expectations" for women of her time were, as we know, Kinder, Küche, Kirche. Be it said in her defense that she was noticeably light on the Kirche bit :-)

I recall her sitting in her living room, during the Nazi occupation of Denmark, a spiral of blue smoke arising from her "whackin' great ceroot", reading socialist tracts. She had the Deutschlandsender (German propaganda broadcast) going full bore on the radio just in case a member of the Hilfspolizei should be cruising the street :-).

Granny was of Spanish descent, one of her forebears having been a Spanish fille de joi who had followed Napoleon's armies up through Europe. My father's side of the family is immensely proud of that :-)! That story another time perhaps.

Well, Granny, having Spanish genes, was all of five foot zip, but she was as wide as she was tall. Lovely dark complexion, wonderful jet-black hair, "a bosom as big as Ethiopia" as one of my cousins put it, and she was nobody's fool.

My Farfar, her husband, was a noted tyrant and as bourgeois as his wife was socialist. A contractor accustomed to handling rough navvies on his building sites. You didn't mess with my Farfar. Every so often the argy-bargy during family "pink teas" would become too much for the Old Man to bear, and he would stand up at his appointed place at the end of the table, place the knuckles of his fists on the table, lean forward like an irritated silverback gorilla, and launch into a rant that silenced all us lesser mortals.

Anna, Granny, would come in from HER appointed place in the kitchen, lean against the doorpost, heft up her bosoms on her folded arms, look the Old Man straight in the eye and say "Piss on you, Alfred!"

Invariably, the Old Man crumbled :-)

And I swear: Theirs was a true love relationship AND a very successful business relationship, both.


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