Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 31-07-2013, 06:23   #61
cruiser

Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Tampa Bay area
Boat: Hunter 31'
Posts: 5,731
Re: Cockpit Enclosure

Quote:
Originally Posted by jackiepitts View Post
I do not understand why you do not just take the enclosure/bimini down during passages if it is such a inconvenience to have it up? It seems like a very easy thing to do assuming it was put together correctly to begin with.

My cockpit is enclosed so my cat can be out in the cockpit but stay on the boat. She loves it out there. It's done with Pfifertex and is removable with zippers.

IMO the boat could not be safely sailed with the Pfifertex up all the way around. It would keep you from leaving the cockpit quickly. Plus, there's no need. When I'm underway, the cat is in her carrier in the cockpit (she loves sailing!) I keep the Bimini up. I want the shade and don't need all the sun exposure. It's not that big a deal to stick my head out and get a good look at the sails. I don't sail with a dodger up, but I do leave the back panels of Pfifertex up as it is more protection from too much sun exposure. I know someone else who does that as well.
__________________

__________________
Rakuflames is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2013, 04:01   #62
cruiser

Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Tampa to New York
Boat: Morgan 33 OutIsland, Magic and 33' offshore scott design "Cutting Edge"
Posts: 1,594
Re: Cockpit Enclosure

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dockhead View Post
+1

I have a full cockpit enclosure. The only good thing I can say about it is that it provides good protection for the cockpit and helm when I am away from the boat. I never sit in the cockpit with it up -- the cockpit becomes uninviting cave.

And it is horrible underway. I wouldn't even dream of trying to sail with it up. I have made two short passages (in two years) under motor with it up, once Yarmouth-Southampton, and once Torquay-Dartmouth, in pouring down rain both times. It sucked - you can't see anything. So now it is relegated to duty keeping the cockpit protected when I'm off the boat.

I'm with Bash -- sailing is an outdoor sport. Good foulies and sea boots are all you need.
I think of a recent sail of mine. The first leg lasted 4 days of solo sailing riding two cold fronts with bucketloads of rain, winds regularly above gale and often calm. windchill down to around freezing at times . With foulies and seaboots I would have been a hypothermic exhausted wreck with a boatload of soggy wet clothes. As it were I spent the time reading in the cockpit and keeping an eye on the radar. At times like these the total amount of sail trim was keeping the right sail up in the right reef point, being quiet and not flapping or flogging and going the right direction. I sure wasnt doing anything beyond easing sheets in gusts.I recall hail bouncing off deck and wave tops slammimg sides of enclosure that stayed outside and not on me.

If it takes too long to get out of the cockpit because of your enclosure, your going too fast. Want trouble, try to do something in a hurry. I go thru inventory before climbing out. Have what I need, lines in boat set how I will need them. Harness check, then venture out
__________________

__________________
forsailbyowner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2013, 15:57   #63
Registered User
 
zboss's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: On a boat
Boat: Cabo Rico 38
Posts: 3,425
Re: Cockpit Enclosure

Quote:
Originally Posted by forsailbyowner View Post
I think of the fisherman I know with skin cancer and lesions all over his forearms below short sleeve shirt level. Hes like the poster child for protection from the sun
Seriously! I have a friend that owns a dive shop and he has ALWAYS been very careful about wearing long sleeves and sunscreen... except his lips. Guess where he got cancer! They were going to have to take his whole lower jaw for something the size of a pin head, lucky for him the radiation cream worked.
__________________
zboss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2013, 16:21   #64
Senior Cruiser
 
Cheechako's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Skagit City, WA
Posts: 19,334
Re: Cockpit Enclosure

Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptForce View Post
Maybe people are suited best with what they've become accoustomed.





We function best protected from the sun. If you plan to spend decades aboard in the lower latitudes, it's best be avoiding skin cancer.
I would think you'd die of heat with that enclosure in the So lat's.! Heck, I found just the Bimini a mixed blessing... amazing how much heat that fabric passes below... actually hot on the top of your head!
__________________
"I spent most of my money on Booze, Broads and Boats. The rest I wasted" - Elmore Leonard











Cheechako is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2013, 17:02   #65
Moderator
 
Hudson Force's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Lived aboard & cruised for 45 years,- now on a chair in my walk-in closet.
Boat: Morgan OI 413 1973 - Aythya
Posts: 7,894
Images: 1
Re: Cockpit Enclosure

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheechako View Post
I would think you'd die of heat with that enclosure in the So lat's.! Heck, I found just the Bimini a mixed blessing... amazing how much heat that fabric passes below... actually hot on the top of your head!
There is a back panel that has not been lowered in this photo that was taken in Maine,- you see Nancie in the sweathirt, it's about 50 degrees F. Don't be fooled in thinking that this is a static configuaration. The side panels with the round view ports, can be present only as splashguards with their lower side outboard. All the vertical panels can be rolled up or removed. We've had this same bimini in the tropics with the top shade only keeping us far cooler than in direct sun. We frequenly sit with the tops of our head in the breeze. We don't dress the same in the tropics either! Of course, your surprise is my fault! I did mention keeping covered in the lower latitudes when I used this photo.
__________________
Take care and joy, Aythya crew
Hudson Force is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2013, 19:34   #66
Senior Cruiser
 
Cheechako's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Skagit City, WA
Posts: 19,334
Re: Cockpit Enclosure

Yeah, I thought you were suggesting using it closed up like that in the tropics! Nice system, very common up here in the PNW also.... although most have see through side curtains.... dark up here alot of the year!
__________________
"I spent most of my money on Booze, Broads and Boats. The rest I wasted" - Elmore Leonard











Cheechako is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2013, 15:06   #67
Registered User
 
wingless's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2013
Boat: 2000 Searay 380 Sundancer
Posts: 487
Re: Cockpit Enclosure

The sunshade I made to blot out the sun works great!

The boat stays much cooler w/ the sunshade. This keeps the interior dry, w/ the Strataglass in-place or stowed. It is also much quieter, attenuating almost all the sound from the front.

It is great for at the dock or on-hook.

The fit is pretty good, I am satisfied w/ the fit. This is huge, about 40' tip to tip and 11' at the center, so it was a butt pain to pattern and a butt pain to sew. The wife helped moving the fabric bulk around while I sewed, saving me hours. (I'm going to keep her!)

The forward visibility is reduced, so I need to operate more slowly w/ this in-place.

The linen interior is much better than the captain navy, so the interior remains much brighter.


Outside



Inside



Pattern
__________________
2000 SeaRay 380 Sundancer Mercruiser
454 MAG MPI Horizon 380hp / Westerbeke 7.0KW BCGB
many cool mods
wingless is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2013, 15:05   #68
Registered User

Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 163
Send a message via Yahoo to woodymr
To each his or her own, but upon looking at old photos of sailboats, they carried so much sail as to appear to be dangerous! Now folks are even reducing sail area more by raising thier booms to allow for Bimini! I feel like I want the enviromental impact, hence "sailing" if I wanted to be inside I would buy a power boat.
__________________
woodymr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2013, 15:11   #69
Registered User

Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 163
Send a message via Yahoo to woodymr
I have rig that 1) can hold solar panels, 2) offer cover, shade and 3) be stowed.when sailing. It was a work in progress and just came together nicely starting with panel rack.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	ForumRunner_20131111_171007.jpg
Views:	150
Size:	87.9 KB
ID:	70194   Click image for larger version

Name:	ForumRunner_20131111_171029.jpg
Views:	139
Size:	96.7 KB
ID:	70195  

Click image for larger version

Name:	ForumRunner_20131111_171045.png
Views:	132
Size:	390.7 KB
ID:	70196   Click image for larger version

Name:	ForumRunner_20131111_171104.jpg
Views:	141
Size:	101.0 KB
ID:	70197  

Click image for larger version

Name:	ForumRunner_20131111_171123.jpg
Views:	149
Size:	107.5 KB
ID:	70198  
__________________
woodymr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2013, 15:13   #70
Registered User

Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 163
Send a message via Yahoo to woodymr
Click image for larger version

Name:	ForumRunner_20131111_171207.jpg
Views:	196
Size:	87.3 KB
ID:	70199



Click image for larger version

Name:	ForumRunner_20131111_171236.jpg
Views:	208
Size:	81.3 KB
ID:	70200



Click image for larger version

Name:	ForumRunner_20131111_171250.png
Views:	188
Size:	396.0 KB
ID:	70201



Click image for larger version

Name:	ForumRunner_20131111_171304.png
Views:	189
Size:	392.2 KB
ID:	70202
__________________
woodymr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2013, 15:20   #71
Registered User

Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 163
Send a message via Yahoo to woodymr
The forward part of Bimini folds back under rear part and attaches to stern attachments to secure when sailing. Way cool!
__________________
woodymr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2013, 16:33   #72
Moderator
 
Hudson Force's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Lived aboard & cruised for 45 years,- now on a chair in my walk-in closet.
Boat: Morgan OI 413 1973 - Aythya
Posts: 7,894
Images: 1
Re: Cockpit Enclosure

Quote:
Originally Posted by woodymr View Post
................ Now folks are even reducing sail area more by raising thier booms to allow for Bimini! I feel like I want the enviromental impact, hence "sailing" if I wanted to be inside I would buy a power boat.
I see by your photos that you have a bimini cover too. I agree with the idea of not raising the boom to accomodate the bimini, we didn't and I assume you didn't either. I've seen it done, but I think it's rare. We spent thirteen years without the cover, but sun protection is a wise choice and not just for power boaters.

I see you're in Green Cove Springs too,- I must be your neighbor! ...'currently at Fleming Island Marina to the north at Doctors Lake.
__________________
Take care and joy, Aythya crew
Hudson Force is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-04-2015, 23:01   #73
Registered User

Join Date: May 2012
Location: Nawiliwili Hawaii
Boat: C&C 38 1976
Posts: 2
Re: Cockpit Enclosure

Wow! I love this idea.
Quote:
Originally Posted by wingless View Post
The sunshade I made to blot out the sun works great!

The boat stays much cooler w/ the sunshade. This keeps the interior dry, w/ the Strataglass in-place or stowed. It is also much quieter, attenuating almost all the sound from the front.

It is great for at the dock or on-hook.

The fit is pretty good, I am satisfied w/ the fit. This is huge, about 40' tip to tip and 11' at the center, so it was a butt pain to pattern and a butt pain to sew. The wife helped moving the fabric bulk around while I sewed, saving me hours. (I'm going to keep her!)

The forward visibility is reduced, so I need to operate more slowly w/ this in-place.

The linen interior is much better than the captain navy, so the interior remains much brighter.


Outside



Inside



Pattern
__________________
Mysticmermaid82 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-04-2015, 23:06   #74
Registered User

Join Date: May 2012
Location: Nawiliwili Hawaii
Boat: C&C 38 1976
Posts: 2
Re: Cockpit Enclosure

Wow! I love this idea. This might be a silly question but did you use a fabric with capt navy on one side and linen on the other?
Quote:
Originally Posted by wingless View Post
The sunshade I made to blot out the sun works great!

The boat stays much cooler w/ the sunshade. This keeps the interior dry, w/ the Strataglass in-place or stowed. It is also much quieter, attenuating almost all the sound from the front.

It is great for at the dock or on-hook.

The fit is pretty good, I am satisfied w/ the fit. This is huge, about 40' tip to tip and 11' at the center, so it was a butt pain to pattern and a butt pain to sew. The wife helped moving the fabric bulk around while I sewed, saving me hours. (I'm going to keep her!)

The forward visibility is reduced, so I need to operate more slowly w/ this in-place.

The linen interior is much better than the captain navy, so the interior remains much brighter.


Outside



Inside



Pattern
__________________
Mysticmermaid82 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24-04-2015, 10:26   #75
Senior Cruiser
 
RolfP's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Pensacola and Minnesota
Boat: 1982 Morgan 383
Posts: 202
Images: 1
Re: Cockpit Enclosure

For sailing in inclement weather, I minimally want the connecting piece, and at least one side piece. :-) On one 16 day passage we had a dodger, bimini, overhead extension between them, and one zip-on side piece of mostly "window" plastic, left over from the previous canvas (previous trip) that was destroyed by an over-zealous wall of water. During our gales we moved the side piece from windward side to windward side when we tacked (1-3x/day). It became a moderately wind-less room and permitted us to share meals and conversation in the full cockpit for all six crew as needed with the leeward and aft sides open where we could easily see the sea-state, all while the gale was driving us. Once it warmed up - no more side piece and among us we went back and forth on the overhead (due to sun). Solar over bimini, so that stayed up as did the dodger. Heavy weather, big seas, quite enjoyable trip. I've also sailed sans-canvas and MUCH prefer at least a dodger... When at anchor, I have at times wished for a screen enclosure to expand area not invaded by mosquitoes.
__________________

__________________
RolfP is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
cockpit, paracelle

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Temporary Full Enclosure michaelmrc Construction, Maintenance & Refit 8 02-10-2016 05:17
Cockpit Enclosure(s) for Island Packet 38 - Cost ? Pau Hana Daz Construction, Maintenance & Refit 5 26-10-2010 13:46
Cockpit Enclosure keepondancin Construction, Maintenance & Refit 0 04-04-2010 08:28
Center cockpit vrs aft cockpit Panamajames Monohull Sailboats 54 24-03-2009 16:00
bug screen cockpit enclosure? c.spots Multihull Sailboats 3 28-11-2007 14:03



Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 17:53.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.