blue water cruiser

[thomm225]

Originally Posted by Salty Possum

I can’t speak from the experience of bluewater sailing but I am told that my PC 31 is up to the task. I know this one was taken across the Atlantic by previous owners and it seems to be built like a brick outhouse.

It offers plenty of room for myself for long term cruising. It feels roomier than some longer beamier boats due to the open layout.

It is a better boat than I deserve and I enjoy having a boat that I feel deserves my time and care.

Nope, it's starts with the PC34!

It's funny how they do the cutoff's I think.

They have my Bristol 27 on most Bluewater Boat lists but most people would never consider crossing on ocean on one.

http://www.mahina.com/cruise.html

[Salty Possum]

Originally Posted by thomm225

Nope, it's starts with the PC34!

Why? What is the critical difference?

[Don C L]

Bluewaterboats is interesting but not the final word by any means. I see recently they no longer have the "boats to vote for" which had many other candidates that were not yet included. It's a good reference to see what kinds of boats and designs have been considered good long range cruisers by some people. I doubt all would agree the Mahina list is the final word either.

[Don C L]

Originally Posted by Salty Possum

Why? What is the critical difference?

I am guessing its stowage and weight-carrying ability.

[Salty Possum]

The PC 34 does not have proportionately more capacity than the PC 31 given the canoe stern. Looks really nice though and I imagine there are other advantages and disadvantages. I bought my boat off a Bluewater cruising couple so its stowage is certainly adequate for one. I wonder about lists like this.

How much attention is really given to the particular individual specimens and their unique characteristics vs general numerical parameters? I can’t argue the point but I remember another list that did classify the PC31 as a “bluewater boat.” Presence or absence of something on a list doesn’t help me unless I can find out why. I have noted that the angle of vanishing stability is somewhat smaller than for the canoe stern PC models. Perhaps that was on this publishers screening parameters.

[markpierce]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_circumnavigations

[thomm225]

Originally Posted by Salty Possum

Why? What is the critical difference?

Not sure. That was my point.

You'll have to ask the guy that made the list and started with the PC34. (Not the PC31)

Mahina Expeditions - Selecting A Boat for Offshore Cruising

[barnakiel]

Do you mean PS when you say PC?


barnakiel

[hpeer]

This book has a lot of good info and a chapter on the “ideal” boat.

https://www.amazon.com/Singlehanded-.../dp/0070281645

Even if sailing as a couple you are really single handed most of the time so I think it’s a good book for many.

[Salty Possum]

Originally Posted by barnakiel

Do you mean PS when you say PC?


barnakiel

Yes. Pacific Seacraft. Thank you.

[Copacabana]

Originally Posted by Salty Possum

I can’t speak from the experience of bluewater sailing but I am told that my PC 31 is up to the task. I know this one was taken across the Atlantic by previous owners and it seems to be built like a brick outhouse.

It offers plenty of room for myself for long term cruising. It feels roomier than some longer beamier boats due to the open layout.

It is a better boat than I deserve and I enjoy having a boat that I feel deserves my time and care.

I'm sure you've probably read this, but in case you haven't:

https://arachnoid.com/sailbook/

This is the account of Paul Lutus' circumnavigation on a Pacific Seacraft 31. He has a few negative things to say about the boat (mainly speed), but never questions its ability to cross oceans.

Lutus is a talented writer and the account is worth reading.

[Salty Possum]

I have not seen it. Thank you very much.