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21-05-2013, 08:59
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Location: Skagit City, WA
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Re: At My Wits End
Another thing to check, especially if the boat sat in Florida for some time! Check that the fuel tank vent tubes are not clogged by little bees building mud nests in the vent. I doubt this is your problem.... with fuel return I wouldnt think it would cause a vacuum very fast... but you never know...
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21-05-2013, 09:18
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Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: PNW
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Re: at my wits end
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Originally Posted by Chopper1973
The sails that came with the boat seem to be the original sails and appeared to be in fair condition. The jib still looks ok but the entire foot of the mainsail in ripped.
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I don't know if anyone has mentioned this or not but all you have to do is put a reef in the main and you can keep sailing!
When you get to where you're going, you can sew it up. By the time you get it sewed up, you'll be an expert!
Been there, done that!
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21-05-2013, 09:24
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Moderator
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Location: cruising SW Pacific
Boat: Jon Sayer 1-off 46 ft fract rig sloop strip plank in W Red Cedar
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Re: At My Wits End
The above advice is true to a point. However, if the rip is in the cloth as opposed to stitching it may be a sign that the cloth has degraded to the point where sewing is hardly worth your time. A sail with severe UV damage can look perfectly fine but be so weak as to be useless. I believe that the OP said that the sails were original (ie quite old), and I would suggest having them evaluated by a sailmaker or other knowledgeable person before wasting time sewing up a major repair.
Used sails are pretty cheap and are entirely appropriate for this situation.
Cheers,
Jim
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21-05-2013, 09:31
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Re: At My Wits End
Check with Minnie's in Newport Beach
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23-05-2013, 17:54
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Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Florida
Boat: 1976 Morgan Out Island 37
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I just read the posts of today. Since I have posted last I have taken my starter battery, which was supposed to have been bought last year but was accually bought Sept 2002, was shot. House battery is 1 year newer and shot as well. Since I have no way of charging my phone on the boat I charge at a laundrymat every couple of days and only turn it on to check posts or look up info. I am currently looking around and inquiring the locals where I can find either a free fuel cell of some kind of a job to be able to get one. Also on the look out for batteries. Things will come together. They usually do. Unfortunately some things take longer than others. Reefing has been the general consensus for a temporary fix and is probably be what we do. I appreciate all the advice. I'm learning new things every day and am looking forward to learning more. I really look forward to the day I get the sails up and head out. You are all great.
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23-05-2013, 17:59
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Re: At My Wits End
Yeah.... sellers seem to take a lot of editorial license with the words "recent" or "new" for sure. I dont know how many boat ads I've seen advertising recent engine rebuild, only to find out the real story is: "i've had the boat 2 years and the previous owner said he had it rebuilt..." .........haha
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23-05-2013, 18:19
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Re: At My Wits End
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Originally Posted by Chopper1973
.................. House battery is 1 year newer and shot as well. ........................ I really look forward to the day I get the sails up and head out. You are all great.
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This is great, but be careful. The engine problems you describe are not battery related. Your running diesel engine will not fail due to poor battery condition. Sails alone will not be a safe method to break an inlet during your return to inshore waters. Don't risk your investment in your boat without the option to use reliable engine power at an inlet.
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23-05-2013, 18:25
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Location: Florida
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Let me be more clear. I believe there is probably debri in the tank. Therefore I am looking into getting an alternative method of holding fuel....ie... Fuel cell. Battery is a separate issue that still needs addressing. And reefing just as a temporary fix to reach Key West.
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23-05-2013, 18:26
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Re: At My Wits End
Does your engine have a hand crank... if so all you need is any small 12v battery to run the electrics for the run to your base..
But as said before... pretty sure you've got fuel starvation and need a clean fuel container...
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23-05-2013, 18:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chopper1973
Let me be more clear. I believe there is probably debri in the tank. Therefore I am looking into getting an alternative method of holding fuel....ie... Fuel cell. Battery is a separate issue that still needs addressing. And reefing just as a temporary fix to reach Key West.
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Fuel cell?! ... man you got a way to go...
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23-05-2013, 18:28
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Location: Florida
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No hand crank.
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23-05-2013, 18:33
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There definitely is debris in your tank. My solution was to use a 10 gallon dinghy fuel tank to hold clean diesel. A fuel hose is running straight from that into the yanmar's fuel filter. I've gone about 500 miles with this arrangement till my tank is fixed.
Works OK, just don't heel the boat over while running the engine on half a tank.
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23-05-2013, 18:47
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Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Florida
Boat: 1976 Morgan Out Island 37
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Re: At My Wits End
I am agreeing that there is probably debri in my fuel take and am going to get a small fuel tank to use for now. However, money is necessary to purchase one. I am looking for a short term job in this area to be able to purchase the items I need to proceed. The plan was to take our time, 2 maybe 3 weeks, to get from Pompano beach to Key West. That was 2 1/2 months ago.
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23-05-2013, 18:54
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Re: At My Wits End
If there's is debris in your tank, aren't you fining it in the top of your racor? Do you have evidence of a collection of this debris at some filter or water separator unit? This should be objective evidence.
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23-05-2013, 19:05
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Tampa Bay area
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Re: At My Wits End
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheechako
Yeah.... sellers seem to take a lot of editorial license with the words "recent" or "new" for sure. I dont know how many boat ads I've seen advertising recent engine rebuild, only to find out the real story is: "i've had the boat 2 years and the previous owner said he had it rebuilt..." .........haha
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Something that I think future boat owners need to know is that often people don't mean to let things deteriorate so badly. Boats are so emotional, and it's hard to let go. I think people let them go little by little and don't realize, for instance, that the batteries are trashed, the hoses are rotten, etc. They didn't mean to abuse the boat, but if you don't sail it, you don't keep it up, it ends up with a lot of problems.
Reefing might be the answer for the sail, but potential owners need to know that the whole sail may be ready to go.
Even if you don't get a boat survey, get an engine survey (more than just an oil analysis) and a rigging survey.
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