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Buy a solid, fairly expensive boat after a while of saving up for it. 9 56.25%
Get a fairly cheap one that needs some love and do your all to learn how to fix it up proper. 7 43.75%
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Old 11-07-2015, 12:14   #1
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Aspiring LiveAboard Tips

Hello,

So I've lived in small spaces before [GMC conversion van for little over a year] and I've done plenty of recreational sailing [mostly in high school with lasers and the like, though I've been on a three masted square rig] and would love to smash those to passions into one. Just not to sure if I should start with saving for something that won't need as much work, or to go ahead and dive in with a 2-3 thousand dollar project that can hop around a bit while I get the feel. Leaning towards the second, but I'm not sure if I'm overestimating my ability to learn/fix it up, or if I'm underestimating how very much it'll take to get a boat like that ship shape.

Which would you do if you were to start all over again?
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A "project" boat has almost always been considered the wrong choice. It looks good at first blush, but get old pretty quickly. Most folks would rather be sailing. And even a pristine condition used boat needs work.
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Old 11-07-2015, 12:23   #3
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Re: Aspiring LiveAboard Tips

What's the average asking price for a boat that doesn't need ungodly amounts of time and money to get going? And would it be weird if I just wandered around marinas chatting with people about their rigs etc? Thank you! ^-^
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Re: Aspiring LiveAboard Tips

Oddly enough, I'm unable to make a proper selection on the poll. Over a period of 43 years I've lived aboard three sailboats and none of them was "fairly expensive" or in "need of love". I worked hard on all of my boats and also paid a good amount for each one of them.
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Old 11-07-2015, 15:11   #5
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What's the average asking price for a boat that doesn't need ungodly amounts of time and money to get going? And would it be weird if I just wandered around marinas chatting with people about their rigs etc? Thank you! ^-^

If your priority is sailing with somewhat Spartan accommodations then your prospects can be quite good if you put in the legwork. 10k can buy a lot of boat if spent wisely.

Walking docks has long been one of my favorite pastimes. A lot of people do it.


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Re: Aspiring LiveAboard Tips

I bought a well found boat that still ended up being a ton of work to get it where I wanted it. I can see why some folks spend years and years in a boatyard and I sympathize having just spent a year in one myself. I still hear the sound of the giant compressor outside kicking on each morning at 7AM.

Ideally I think you get a spartan squeaky clean boat that you know the PO did a great job of keeping up, one that you can build upon down the line as you define your needs/wants.

Especially if you're going to be living on it, a project boat or even a well found one constantly under upgrade/repair is not a good base of operations.
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Our project boat took a lot more time than we'd thought but slightly less money. For us we feel pride in our boat that comes from the time and effort. We wouldn't change a thing.
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I think a project boat is just fine as long as it meets your immediate desire, and will not suck you dry.

For me that meant it had to motor and sail. If I can do those two things then I am not stuck on the hard for ages dreaming of sailing, I can work on my boat as I move around. I have a list of things that need doing, and I can buy stuff to tackle those projects, working on them while I enjoy the actual sailing life.
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Back around 1970, when I was shopping for my first boat, I fell in love with a 50' cypress hulled schooner that was selling for 6K. I could have done it, but I was fortunate enough to ask for a survey. An elderly gentleman, Pembroke Huckins, from the Huckins yard down the street gave me some advice while showing me a corroded fastener that he had pulled from the hull and I walked away. The old schooner broke apart and sunk in moderate seas a couple of years later. I was so glad it wasn't mine! I had ended up paying twice the price for a 1969 30' fiberglass Sparkmen & Stephens design in 1971 and made it home.

I was saved by a survey and advice from those older and wiser!
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Any boat you're living on will require tremendous amounts of work - why put yourself behind the eight-ball from Day 1? But, that's not to say that you won't be happy with a project boat.

Having built a custom van out with a livable interior myself, I think that if that GMC van you're in is one you built out, you have been exposed to some of what you're getting into.

I think the best advice anyone can give you about buying a boat to liveaboard is to find a boat that makes you smile when you look at her - if you don't love the boat, you will soon come to resent any and all work you put into her.

What ship did you sail on and how long?
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Walking docks has long been one of my favorite pastimes. A lot of people do it.


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That there is just about the best advice for finding a boat ever.

The second best advice is buy a Cat. Ok, personal prejudice there....

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It's all about going out and getting some real cruising experience ASAP. From my experience buy a boat ready to go!

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