Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 14-06-2018, 12:44   #1
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Germantown, TN
Boat: 1985 S2 9.2C
Posts: 79
1985 S2 9.2C; my first sailboat

ARGH --- I hate sideways pics.

Hi Folks.

I recently purchased my first sailboat (and boat). It's a 1985 S2 9.2C (center cockpit). It sat on the hard for 3 years. The Seller to me purchased it in Nov, 2016 and did 5 months of work including new head, painted mast, upgraded the electronics, installed AC, replaced all the hoses and belt on Yanmar 2GM, and painted the bottom. This has been a freshwater boat for a few years.

I'm planning on a few upgrades to the galley and I also need a bimini. My plan is for this to be lake (Pickwick) boat and sail as much as I can. I'm self-employed (under and unemployed, at present), so I can get to the boat during the week. The old CNG stove doesn't work; I've removed it along with the CNG bottle. YIKES! The sink is useless to me....it's deep, but not wide enough. And then, there is the original icebox.

I have purchased a Plastimo Gulf 2000 propane 2 burner stove. My plan is to add a propane tank to the stern rail. The stove control knobs are on the front, so a few modifications are necessary to the galley cabinet. No big deal for me. I'm a genuine handyman with a touch of perfectionist.

Summary: I have three challenges: Icebox, Sink, and Bimini

The icebox is probably the biggest challenge. I've read numerous refrigeration mod/upgrade threads. I don't need a freezer; however, some type of powered refrigerator is necessary. I've already bought a portable ice maker because how can you have a drink without ice . I don't plan on being away from the dock for more than a week; however, it would be nice to leave some stuff in the fridge for next week.

A few questions:
Should I tear out the existing icebox and rebuild from scratch?
Or should I add insulation to the inside of it?
I don't know the current dimensions of the icebox; however, I have to believe that 2018 insulation is better than 1985 insulation.
I'm leaning toward trying a KECO Eco Cooler because of my location, lake water temperature, ease of installation and use, etc.

Sink: I have pressured water and even a hot water heater (although, I think the element is burned out). I have a non-functioning foot pump that will probably just be removed. I'm planning on putting a smallish sink back in, but it doesn't have to be so deep. Anyone have any input?

Bimini: Here's the challenge with a center cockpit. The 9.2C traveller is located at the back edge of the cockpit. I can stand behind the wheel and have about 1.5 inches between the boom and the top of my head. A bimini frame and cover may just barely fit. Should I attempt to make a model out of PVC to figure out best placement of various upright poles/stanchions/braces ? The 9.2C does have a dodger, at present. Ideally, I'd like the bimini collapsible and the dodger removable for certain sailing days.

I will attempt to add some pics to this post.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_2066.jpg
Views:	173
Size:	414.8 KB
ID:	171718   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_2035.jpg
Views:	189
Size:	423.6 KB
ID:	171719  

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_2047.jpg
Views:	149
Size:	414.2 KB
ID:	171720   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_2197.jpg
Views:	161
Size:	420.9 KB
ID:	171721  

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_2251.jpg
Views:	137
Size:	402.1 KB
ID:	171722  
__________________

daw_two is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-06-2018, 16:11   #2
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 12,161
Re: 1985 S2 9.2C; my first sailboat

There are free and easy photo editing tools available for your computing platform.
__________________

john61ct is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 14-06-2018, 20:54   #3
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Germantown, TN
Boat: 1985 S2 9.2C
Posts: 79
Re: 1985 S2 9.2C; my first sailboat

Quote:
Originally Posted by john61ct View Post
There are free and easy photo editing tools available for your computing platform.
So, John. Thanks for the reply. The pics were "correct" when I emailed them to my desktop from my phone. So, would the pics need to be oriented 90 degrees to the right in order to upload correctly?
daw_two is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-06-2018, 21:52   #4
Moderator
 
Don C L's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Channel Islands, CA
Boat: 1962 Columbia 29 MK 1 #37
Posts: 7,781
Images: 48
Re: 1985 S2 9.2C; my first sailboat

Try shrinking the photos. If you export them to your desktop first it should be possible, it is with iPhoto.
Not sure about advice for icebox.
Sounds like realistically you'll need to stoop if you get a bimini, but it'll probably be worth it.
I like foot pumps personally, they are simple, easy and you waste less water IMO. I'd fix/replace it.
Good luck and congratulations! I really like those S2s!
__________________
DL
Pythagoras
1962 Columbia 29 MKI #37
Don C L is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-06-2018, 05:51   #5
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 12,161
Re: 1985 S2 9.2C; my first sailboat

Quote:
Originally Posted by daw_two View Post
So, John. Thanks for the reply. The pics were "correct" when I emailed them to my desktop from my phone. So, would the pics need to be oriented 90 degrees to the right in order to upload correctly?
Seems like maybe this forum prefers landscape over portrait orientation.

Square works well as a universal.

You could crop, rotate and reduce file size, then post them to forums all from your phone.

Or use a photo sharing site like Imgur, just post links in forums.
john61ct is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 15-06-2018, 09:17   #6
Registered User

Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Montreal, Canada
Boat: S2 9.2C
Posts: 9
Re: 1985 S2 9.2C; my first sailboat

HI there. Congratulations on your S2. I also have an S2 9.2C (1981). If I were to modify the galley, I would rebuild one from scratch with the desired items figured into the design. I have a two burner alcohol stove that I'd love to replace with a gimballed stove / oven. That would mean removing the drawers. A redesign of the galley would probably be the best solution for me. I'm also thinking of removing the seat at the "nav station" to make the galley longer. Perhaps locating the fridge there would leave plenty of room for counter space and a double sink.

I cannot stand under the boom. I'm 5'8". Is your boom positioned higher? I'd love to install a Bimini but I don't think crouching under it is desirable.
RMatichak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-06-2018, 09:20   #7
Registered User

Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Ladys Island, SC
Boat: Catalina-Morgan 504
Posts: 97
Re: 1985 S2 9.2C; my first sailboat

Skipping from presentation to the actual issues:


Two boats ago, I had a 1990 Sovereign 28 (or 30), essentially the same boat as yours. I believe it was a stretched version of the next-size-down S2. Since Sovereign was out of business by 1990 (thank you luxury tax) I bought it from the glass guy(Custom Fiberglass) in Florida who still had access to the molds. I finished it from a bare hull during a very hectic summer. Cherry interior was really nice.



One of the things I did was to refrigerate the existing icebox. It was done with an air-cooled Adler-Barbour unit, with the plate in a box-shape (creates a mini freezer) placed near the middle of the ice box so I could reach in and under the top, not blocking the opening. The rest of the system was under a seat to the left of the icebox, with a computer fan to assist ventilation. I remember squirting loads (four or five cans) of expanding foam behind, around and, and under the icebox. If you go this way, get it right the first time. My refrigerator worked great. Total cost to buy and install was reasonable (how much is reasonable in order to get cold beer?)


I also fabricated a bimini frame from 1" ss tubing and sewed up a serviceable cover on the second attempt. It was in front of the traveller, and I had to be careful about gybes, but all told it was fairly effective.



The sink I left in place. It was fiberglass and it did the job. More important was putting on solar panels, more battery storage and an electric windlass, since I sail by myself.

Comments on the boat itself: generally a good concept, trailerable with room for four and 6-foot headroom. Pretty tippy with a 8'4" beam. Only 3'10" draft on a 33/4 keel, however, it still needed a crane since most ramps aren't deep enough. Okay for coastal cruising if you're careful.
Wallaby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-06-2018, 10:01   #8
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Germantown, TN
Boat: 1985 S2 9.2C
Posts: 79
Re: 1985 S2 9.2C; my first sailboat

Quote:
Originally Posted by RMatichak View Post
HI there. Congratulations on your S2. I also have an S2 9.2C (1981). If I were to modify the galley, I would rebuild one from scratch with the desired items figured into the design. I have a two burner alcohol stove that I'd love to replace with a gimballed stove / oven. That would mean removing the drawers. A redesign of the galley would probably be the best solution for me. I'm also thinking of removing the seat at the "nav station" to make the galley longer. Perhaps locating the fridge there would leave plenty of room for counter space and a double sink.

I cannot stand under the boom. I'm 5'8". Is your boom positioned higher? I'd love to install a Bimini but I don't think crouching under it is desirable.
I am 6'2" and can stand under the boom behind the wheel. Perhaps, my boom is higher or you are standing on your tiptoes because you are excited to be sailing .

The Plastimo Gulf 2000 is a 2 burner (gimbal attachments came with it) without an oven.

I will be modifying the "nav station seat". It will become storage or the compressor/coils for fridge will be located there.....if it fits.

I keep looking at the Nav Station and thinking that space could be better utilized. Maybe some removed shelves. I might relocate the AC breaker panel to be port side facing; perhaps under the DC breaker panel. Being able to remove the Nav Station writing surface to have top access to the engine is a plus.
daw_two is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-06-2018, 10:11   #9
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Germantown, TN
Boat: 1985 S2 9.2C
Posts: 79
Re: 1985 S2 9.2C; my first sailboat

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wallaby View Post
Skipping from presentation to the actual issues:

One of the things I did was to refrigerate the existing icebox. It was done with an air-cooled Adler-Barbour unit, with the plate in a box-shape (creates a mini freezer) placed near the middle of the ice box so I could reach in and under the top, not blocking the opening. The rest of the system was under a seat to the left of the icebox, with a computer fan to assist ventilation. I remember squirting loads (four or five cans) of expanding foam behind, around and, and under the icebox. If you go this way, get it right the first time. My refrigerator worked great. Total cost to buy and install was reasonable (how much is reasonable in order to get cold beer?)

I also fabricated a bimini frame from 1" ss tubing and sewed up a serviceable cover on the second attempt. It was in front of the traveller, and I had to be careful about gybes, but all told it was fairly effective.

The sink I left in place. It was fiberglass and it did the job. More important was putting on solar panels, more battery storage and an electric windlass, since I sail by myself.

Comments on the boat itself: generally a good concept, trailerable with room for four and 6-foot headroom. Pretty tippy with a 8'4" beam. Only 3'10" draft on a 33/4 keel, however, it still needed a crane since most ramps aren't deep enough. Okay for coastal cruising if you're careful.
Agree about the icebox....I might just tear it all out and build a custom size icebox from foam board, etc, etc.

1" stainless steel frame for bimini; my thoughts exactly.

My sink is stainless steel not fiberglass, but too narrow and way deep. I plan to add some solar and increase the battery plant.

My boat has the deeper draft; 4'10" if I recall correctly. I am 6'2" and can stand straight up in about a 4 foot area in front of the sink, stove, and part of the saloon.
daw_two is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-12-2018, 13:30   #10
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Germantown, TN
Boat: 1985 S2 9.2C
Posts: 79
Galley Renovation Update

During the summer, my parenting duties rotate on a weekly basis. Most of the work you see in the pics was completed during this summer. I'm still working on the galley. Maybe a few of you can chime in and give me some helpful pointers.

Here's what I've completed thus far:
  1. Ripped out the entire galley --- icebox, old sink, CNG stove, 2 drawers, cabinet front, and countertop.
  2. Built a custom top load refrigerator using a dorm sized frig. The compressor went where the seat of the nav station use to be located. The storage behind the nav seat along the hull is where the "sandwich" with coils inside. Two 12volt fans blow air from the floor through the compressor area through the sandwiched coils and up to the top; I'm thinking of venting this to the outside, but that might be more than it's worth.
  3. Built wood framework and front panel.
  4. Built 3 custom drawers with self-closing slides; still working on latches.
  5. Installed new sink and faucet.
  6. Installed 2 burner propane stove; need to hang the propane tank on the stern rail.

Things I need:
  • Propane tank holder for rail. I'm in fresh water and this is a BBQ standard propane tank.
  • Gasket material for rectangular shaped windows.
  • Gasket material for hatches.

In addition, I've sailed quite a bit since June 1st. Here are the pics:
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG-2400.jpg
Views:	56
Size:	406.1 KB
ID:	182281   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG-2207.jpg
Views:	48
Size:	412.4 KB
ID:	182282  

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG-2210.jpg
Views:	54
Size:	411.5 KB
ID:	182283   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG-2407.jpg
Views:	54
Size:	408.0 KB
ID:	182284  

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG-2660.jpg
Views:	55
Size:	404.4 KB
ID:	182285   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG-2629.jpg
Views:	52
Size:	421.5 KB
ID:	182286  

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG-3014.jpg
Views:	58
Size:	406.4 KB
ID:	182287   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG-3015.jpg
Views:	53
Size:	408.8 KB
ID:	182288  

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG-3020.jpg
Views:	56
Size:	419.2 KB
ID:	182289   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG-3024.jpg
Views:	58
Size:	403.7 KB
ID:	182290  

daw_two is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-12-2018, 13:35   #11
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Germantown, TN
Boat: 1985 S2 9.2C
Posts: 79
more pics

Here are some more pics.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG-3231.jpg
Views:	58
Size:	404.8 KB
ID:	182292   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG-3029.jpg
Views:	50
Size:	418.4 KB
ID:	182293  

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG-3189.jpg
Views:	44
Size:	419.3 KB
ID:	182294   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG-3211.jpg
Views:	48
Size:	424.2 KB
ID:	182295  

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG-3131.jpg
Views:	48
Size:	421.7 KB
ID:	182296   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG-3127.jpg
Views:	46
Size:	407.5 KB
ID:	182297  

daw_two is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-04-2019, 05:36   #12
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Germantown, TN
Boat: 1985 S2 9.2C
Posts: 79
Need Yanmar engine water pump

The engine water pump died on the way back to the dock on Saturday. A call to BoatUS with an ETA of 30 minutes.....hmmm....I have a little bit of wind, maybe I can sail to the dock. I did manage to sail almost to the dock before the service boat reached me. With a gentle pull.....I coasted right into my slip.

Can someone confirm my 1985 S2 9.2 would have a Yanmar 2GM engine? I've searched online; haven't found a source. Sailing club member sent me link to Mastry Engine Center LLC; anyone else have another source?
daw_two is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-04-2019, 07:24   #13
Registered User

Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Montreal, Canada
Boat: S2 9.2C
Posts: 9
Re: 1985 S2 9.2C; my first sailboat

All I can say is that my 1981 S2 9.2C has a Yanmar 2QM15.
__________________
"Eaum" S2 9.2C
RMatichak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-07-2019, 10:12   #14
Registered User

Join Date: May 2012
Location: San Rafael, CA
Boat: S2 9.2A 30' sloop
Posts: 3
Re: 1985 S2 9.2C; my first sailboat

As neophyte at posting, only way I could find to post a new issue is to reply to an old one.


1982 S2 92.A chainplate problem. Apparent water leakage into chainplates (within the hull) has apparently weakened areas to which chainplates are attached, manifesting itself by slight heaving (tenting) of the deck at the chainplate when shroud is tightened. Any owner of S2 9.2 encounter this issue? If so, what would be the fix?


Also, how do I start a new thread?
cebeuq is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-09-2019, 10:24   #15
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Germantown, TN
Boat: 1985 S2 9.2C
Posts: 79
Re: Need Yanmar engine water pump

Quote:
Originally Posted by daw_two View Post
The engine water pump died on the way back to the dock on Saturday. A call to BoatUS with an ETA of 30 minutes.....hmmm....I have a little bit of wind, maybe I can sail to the dock. I did manage to sail almost to the dock before the service boat reached me. With a gentle pull.....I coasted right into my slip.

Can someone confirm my 1985 S2 9.2 would have a Yanmar 2GM engine? I've searched online; haven't found a source. Sailing club member sent me link to Mastry Engine Center LLC; anyone else have another source?
I've been told on good authority Cora Shen has a Yanmar 2GMF 13HP engine.
__________________

daw_two is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
sailboat, sail, boat

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Beneteau first 375 (1985) vs Ericson 38 (1988) arjand Monohull Sailboats 6 24-07-2017 13:07
1985 Hunter 23wk first time boat? Jaxcruiser Monohull Sailboats 21 22-03-2017 14:56
For Sale: 1985 endeavor 40 sailboat mcswain Classifieds Archive 0 24-10-2013 18:32
1985 Beneteau 37 First Hull weakness???? Skydiver1949 Monohull Sailboats 1 25-12-2011 18:56
For Sale: 1985 Beneteau First 456 / $99,000 donradcliffe Classifieds Archive 4 31-08-2011 17:39

Advertise Here


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 06:52.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
×

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.