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Old 29-06-2018, 06:16   #16
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Re: 1958 Rhodes Bounty II TELEIA

A great looking boat, and a good tale of seamanship saving that mast.
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Re: 1958 Rhodes Bounty II TELEIA

TELEIA sure looks good from 100' away! Ha ha ha just leave the binoculars in the drawer.

I took a look at that Rhodes Offshore 41 refit. Holy moly that's a refit. Just drooling over the tools in that shop. I really regret parting with my shop tools. I have all my portable contractor stuff. Shouldn't complain. It's a poor craftsman who blames his tools.

Somebody put a whole lotta dough into that refit, that's for sure. Out of my league. It's nice to see an example of what could be done.

It is hot, and it's time for me to work out the shade systems. I laid a traditional painted canvas deck about 3 years ago and still have some canvas left over, which is what I will use. On the list are a tiller sock, hatch covers, and an awning of some kind. I have pieces of a dodger, but the fittings have been removed and are gone. Might be time to take on that project too.

I will get up the mast to get the other spreader down tonight or tomorrow morning when it's calm and a little cooler. Being up the mast with all the power boat traffic tempts me into hating them, which isn't healthy.
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Somebody put a whole lotta dough into that refit, that's for sure. Out of my league. It's nice to see an example of what could be done.
Yeah I think folks who see that refit fall into one of two camps: "why on Earth would anyone go to all that trouble and expense for such an old boat and outdated design?" and "God, how beautiful, I wish I could do that for my boat."
And, yes, I wish I had that shop and all those tools!!!
40 years ago I had my first boat in Santa Barbara and there was a Bounty in the slip across from mine. I was there for 10 years and I never saw the boat go out, but it was always well-maintained. (The owner, I understood, in poor health but quite wealthy, never wanted to give up on the boat or the dream of getting back out on her one day.) I would often just study it and marvel at the lines, and was fascinated with the blend of the traditional and the modern (for 1958) that came together in that boat... and at the chainplates bolted to the hull the way they were... and the round cockpit and all the bronze fittings and the big bronze tiller. It had the colors popular of its day, refrigerator white and Willy's beryl green (turquoise.) It just always LOOKED like a great boat to sail, but I only admired it from the dock. Before I knew what it was, I was commenting to my buddy with his Downeaster 38 next to it (what a contrast) and he looked at me seriously, being an old salt, and said with a tone of reverence, "that's a BOUNTY." I dared not ask anymore questions for fear I would appear more foolish and uneducated than I already had.
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Old 29-06-2018, 21:33   #19
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Gold plater or not, She has stunning lines.

The two halyards halfway up the mast are possibly spinnaker pole topping lifts or maybe for a spinnaker staysail halyard.

A common reason for spreader failures is the spreader slipping down on the stay if the lashing on the end isn't very well done and the angle doesn't properly bisect the shroud angles.
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Re: 1958 Rhodes Bounty II TELEIA

Just an interesting side note: these Bounty's originally came with a fiberglass mast and boom. They wanted to prove you could build a boat with absolutely no wood.

Guess the fiberglass mast and booms did not work out so well as I believe they were all replaced.



Nice to see her out sailing again!
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I'm a sailboat again. I built a whole new spreader. Rigged it up. It works.

Not without trials. I lost the bronze fitting for the outboard end of the spreader when it failed. I initially planned to get a properly sized blank of aluminum to machine using the remaining spreader as a pattern, but a careful study of the bronze hardware on an old wood boom I've been hoarding revealed a piece almost the correct shape. I was able to fashion a quite suitable fitting, and then drop it in the water by the dock. Agony! No more sacrificial bronze hardware to harvest! Hours of work down the drain.

I hadn't been swimming, and the crud on the pilings isn't particularly inviting, but I went in and got it. My previous mentality was if it gets dropped in the water it's gone forever, but instead it was only 7 feet away, albeit invisible.

About 10 years ago I found some very old quarter sawn red oak in a barn. I have been lugging it around since, and that was the only wood I had that would serve so I used it. I'm familiar with the problems using red oak in boat construction, but it's compression strength exceeds Sitka Spruce, which is the gold standard for spars. It's only slightly heavier than the other spreader which is Douglas Fir. I matched the shape and dimensions of the original spreader, but I am gun shy and second guessing everything. I am going to keep a close eye on them.

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Looks very good, but just make sure the spreader end is properly seized onto the wire so it cannot move up or down at all, especially when you jump up and down on the spreader!
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