taking the boat from the great lakes - Page 3

**irwinsailor** · 06-02-2005, 21:00

CSY I guess that would be your choice. I like what I have and will be keeping it.

Trecksail · 07-02-2005, 00:14

OK, I haven't done it yet unfortunately, but have you considered heading through Chicago to the Mississippi River down to the gulf? I would love to do the St. Lawrance or the Erie as well, but is seems to me like for us on Lake Michigan it would be a much quicker and safer trip down this away. Now again, I would kill to be able to do the Northerly trip and out to Bermuda and down from there ( and just keep going ), but if timing/storm seasons are a concern, this might be a thought.
Joe

**irwinsailor** · 07-02-2005, 06:55

I did plan on going through Chiacgo and down the river system. But it sounds like a boring trip. I would much rather take the erie canal but that requires that rig to come down and it is a big rig and I do not pay for work to be done on my boat. So the St Lawarance is the last option. From the replies that I have received here the erie is option is looking much better to me and it was my preference.

**irwinsailor** · 08-02-2005, 07:22

The erie canal route is looking very good to us. Where can I find information on this trip. How many ways are there into the canal? Where can I find information on marinas that can pull the sticks? Thank you.

**GordMay** · 08-02-2005, 08:06

From the West, you enter the canal at Bufalo, or Oswego - then exit at Troy (juncture of Hudson River).

Goto:
The New York State Canal System:
http://www.canals.state.ny.us/

Marina List: http://www.canals.state.ny.us/exvac/...bcmarinas.html

New York State Canal System Cruising Guide ($19.95 + Shipping & Handling)
http://www.canals.state.ny.us/exvac/.../orderform.pdf

NIAGARA RIVER
(Western Gateway to Erie Canal)
Anchor Marine
1501 Ferry Rd.
Grand Island, NY 14072
(716) 773-7063

Beaver Island State Park
2136 West Oakfield Rd.
Grand Island, NY 14072
(716) 773-3271

Harbour Place Marina
2192 Niagara St.
Buffalo, NY 14207
(716) 876-5944

OSWEGO CANAL
Canalview Marina
141 South First Street
Fulton, NY 13069
(315) 592-2474
www.cityoffulton.com

Oswego Marina
3 Basin Street
Oswego, NY 13126
(315) 342-0436

(LAKE ONTARIO)
Wrights Landing Marina
41 Lake St.
Oswego, NY 13126
(315) 343-8430

Oswego International Marina
19 Lake Street
Oswego, NY 13126
(315) 343-0688

**irwinsailor** · 08-02-2005, 14:44

I have been looking at the information that Gord provided (Thank You Gord) and I see that the Hudson river is not included. I looked for info for the Hudson but so far have not found much. Is there a web page with maps?

Jentine · 08-02-2005, 17:13

Follow the buoys down or up the river. You can't get lost.
Jim

Jon D · 08-02-2005, 17:55

Check out

http://www.hvnet.com/features/rivera...otor_chart.htm

and

http://www.hvnet.com/

if you go to the interactive map it's pretty neat -- wish they had that in 94....

Also remembered where we stepped the mast - on the way down the Hudson - it was

#41 on the map
Hop O'Nose Marina
Catskill, Greene Cty. $1.50/ft $5/ft 12'

and according to my wife as I didn't recall we unstepped the mast entering the canal in Tonowanda NY near Buffalo. It wasa guy with a really funky crane that had the best touch we have ever seen pulling a mast.

**irwinsailor** · 08-02-2005, 19:54

Very helpfull Jon. I will spend time looking it over tomorrow. I hope that more wil post Thank you to all.

**irwinsailor** · 09-02-2005, 09:05

Here is my revised plan. Buy the erie canal cruising guide, go to our boat and get the east coast chart book and see if it covers the Hudson river . I will need to find out where to un step and restep the masts. The more I looked into taking the st lawarance the less it appealed to me. I think this new route will be safer and shorther. It will put us where we want to be. To tell you the truth it was they way that I wanted to go all along but I did not want all the work of the rig. Thank you all. Is there anything more that I need to look at?

**GordMay** · 09-02-2005, 09:46

Re-install your mast (Hudson R.) at:
Castelton Yacht Club - Do-It-Yourself with manual crane (small fee).
Hop-o-nose Marina (40 miles South in Catskill) - Have it done professionally Tel. (518) 943-4640

**irwinsailor** · 09-02-2005, 09:59

my mast is very heavy and 74' long can I realisticly do it myself with a manual crane? I had to hire a boom crane here.

**GordMay** · 09-02-2005, 11:05

Having handled it at least once, YOU might be in a position to tell us, whether or not YOU can handle it on a manual winch/crane.
I’d expect your extrusion to weiogh in at something like 4 or 5 Lbs/foot & hardware etc.
74' x 5# ≈ 370# + total

BTW: The crane dock is alonside the heavilly trafficed river. There is usually other boaters around to help.

Suspect you'd be better off hiring the job.

**irwinsailor** · 09-02-2005, 13:37

Gord, I don't think I will take the chance and do it alone. I will do all that I can and have some one lift the pole. I hate spending money that I can use cruising but where would I be with a damaged mast, boat or body.

**irwinsailor** · 11-02-2005, 18:32

I picked up my east coast charts for the boat yesterday and spent 15 minutes with them. Wow I will need to be o my toes like I have never been before. Man is there a lot going on by the time you get to sandy hook.

06-02-2005, 21:00	#31
irwinsailor Moderator Site Helper Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Macatawa Michigan Boat: Amanda Faye 61' Custom Irwin aftcockpit ketch Posts: 1,347 Images: 106	CSY I guess that would be your choice. I like what I have and will be keeping it. __________________ *Gunner*

07-02-2005, 06:55	#33
irwinsailor Moderator Site Helper Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Macatawa Michigan Boat: Amanda Faye 61' Custom Irwin aftcockpit ketch Posts: 1,347 Images: 106	I did plan on going through Chiacgo and down the river system. But it sounds like a boring trip. I would much rather take the erie canal but that requires that rig to come down and it is a big rig and I do not pay for work to be done on my boat. So the St Lawarance is the last option. From the replies that I have received here the erie is option is looking much better to me and it was my preference. __________________ *Gunner*

08-02-2005, 07:22	#34
irwinsailor Moderator Site Helper Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Macatawa Michigan Boat: Amanda Faye 61' Custom Irwin aftcockpit ketch Posts: 1,347 Images: 106	The erie canal route is looking very good to us. Where can I find information on this trip. How many ways are there into the canal? Where can I find information on marinas that can pull the sticks? Thank you. __________________ *Gunner*

08-02-2005, 08:06	#35
GordMay Administrator Site Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario - 48-29N x 89-20W Boat: C.L.O.D. (Cruiser Living On Dirt) Posts: 9,443 Images: 232	From the West, you enter the canal at Bufalo, or Oswego - then exit at Troy (juncture of Hudson River). Goto: The New York State Canal System: http://www.canals.state.ny.us/ Marina List: http://www.canals.state.ny.us/exvac/...bcmarinas.html New York State Canal System Cruising Guide ($19.95 + Shipping & Handling) http://www.canals.state.ny.us/exvac/.../orderform.pdf NIAGARA RIVER (Western Gateway to Erie Canal) Anchor Marine 1501 Ferry Rd. Grand Island, NY 14072 (716) 773-7063 Beaver Island State Park 2136 West Oakfield Rd. Grand Island, NY 14072 (716) 773-3271 Harbour Place Marina 2192 Niagara St. Buffalo, NY 14207 (716) 876-5944 OSWEGO CANAL Canalview Marina 141 South First Street Fulton, NY 13069 (315) 592-2474 www.cityoffulton.com Oswego Marina 3 Basin Street Oswego, NY 13126 (315) 342-0436 (LAKE ONTARIO) Wrights Landing Marina 41 Lake St. Oswego, NY 13126 (315) 343-8430 Oswego International Marina 19 Lake Street Oswego, NY 13126 (315) 343-0688 __________________ Gord May ~~_/)_~~ (Gord & Maggie - "Southbound") "If you didn't have time/$ to do it right in the first place, when will you get the time/$ to fix it?"

08-02-2005, 14:44	#36
irwinsailor Moderator Site Helper Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Macatawa Michigan Boat: Amanda Faye 61' Custom Irwin aftcockpit ketch Posts: 1,347 Images: 106	I have been looking at the information that Gord provided (Thank You Gord) and I see that the Hudson river is not included. I looked for info for the Hudson but so far have not found much. Is there a web page with maps? __________________ *Gunner*

07-02-2005, 00:14	#32
Trecksail Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 12	OK, I haven't done it yet unfortunately, but have you considered heading through Chicago to the Mississippi River down to the gulf? I would love to do the St. Lawrance or the Erie as well, but is seems to me like for us on Lake Michigan it would be a much quicker and safer trip down this away. Now again, I would kill to be able to do the Northerly trip and out to Bermuda and down from there ( and just keep going ), but if timing/storm seasons are a concern, this might be a thought. Joe

08-02-2005, 17:13	#37
Jentine Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Massachusetts Boat: Beneteau 393, "Blackthorn" Posts: 493 Images: 5	Follow the buoys down or up the river. You can't get lost. Jim __________________ Jim We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." --Aristotle

08-02-2005, 17:55	#38
Jon D Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL currently CLODs [cruisers living on dirt] Posts: 364 Images: 11	Check out http://www.hvnet.com/features/rivera...otor_chart.htm and http://www.hvnet.com/ if you go to the interactive map it's pretty neat -- wish they had that in 94.... Also remembered where we stepped the mast - on the way down the Hudson - it was #41 on the map Hop O'Nose Marina Catskill, Greene Cty. $1.50/ft $5/ft 12' and according to my wife as I didn't recall we unstepped the mast entering the canal in Tonowanda NY near Buffalo. It wasa guy with a really funky crane that had the best touch we have ever seen pulling a mast. __________________ Jon S/Y Sirius Moody 47 Last edited by Jon D; 08-02-2005 at 18:06.

08-02-2005, 19:54	#39
irwinsailor Moderator Site Helper Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Macatawa Michigan Boat: Amanda Faye 61' Custom Irwin aftcockpit ketch Posts: 1,347 Images: 106	Very helpfull Jon. I will spend time looking it over tomorrow. I hope that more wil post Thank you to all. __________________ *Gunner*

09-02-2005, 09:05	#40
irwinsailor Moderator Site Helper Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Macatawa Michigan Boat: Amanda Faye 61' Custom Irwin aftcockpit ketch Posts: 1,347 Images: 106	Here is my revised plan. Buy the erie canal cruising guide, go to our boat and get the east coast chart book and see if it covers the Hudson river . I will need to find out where to un step and restep the masts. The more I looked into taking the st lawarance the less it appealed to me. I think this new route will be safer and shorther. It will put us where we want to be. To tell you the truth it was they way that I wanted to go all along but I did not want all the work of the rig. Thank you all. Is there anything more that I need to look at? __________________ *Gunner*

09-02-2005, 09:46	#41
GordMay Administrator Site Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario - 48-29N x 89-20W Boat: C.L.O.D. (Cruiser Living On Dirt) Posts: 9,443 Images: 232	Re-install your mast (Hudson R.) at: Castelton Yacht Club - Do-It-Yourself with manual crane (small fee). Hop-o-nose Marina (40 miles South in Catskill) - Have it done professionally Tel. (518) 943-4640 __________________ Gord May ~~_/)_~~ (Gord & Maggie - "Southbound") "If you didn't have time/$ to do it right in the first place, when will you get the time/$ to fix it?"

09-02-2005, 09:59	#42
irwinsailor Moderator Site Helper Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Macatawa Michigan Boat: Amanda Faye 61' Custom Irwin aftcockpit ketch Posts: 1,347 Images: 106	my mast is very heavy and 74' long can I realisticly do it myself with a manual crane? I had to hire a boom crane here. __________________ *Gunner*

09-02-2005, 11:05	#43
GordMay Administrator Site Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario - 48-29N x 89-20W Boat: C.L.O.D. (Cruiser Living On Dirt) Posts: 9,443 Images: 232	Having handled it at least once, YOU might be in a position to tell us, whether or not YOU can handle it on a manual winch/crane. I’d expect your extrusion to weiogh in at something like 4 or 5 Lbs/foot & hardware etc. 74' x 5# ≈ 370# + total BTW: The crane dock is alonside the heavilly trafficed river. There is usually other boaters around to help. Suspect you'd be better off hiring the job. __________________ Gord May ~~_/)_~~ (Gord & Maggie - "Southbound") "If you didn't have time/$ to do it right in the first place, when will you get the time/$ to fix it?"

09-02-2005, 13:37	#44
irwinsailor Moderator Site Helper Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Macatawa Michigan Boat: Amanda Faye 61' Custom Irwin aftcockpit ketch Posts: 1,347 Images: 106	Gord, I don't think I will take the chance and do it alone. I will do all that I can and have some one lift the pole. I hate spending money that I can use cruising but where would I be with a damaged mast, boat or body. __________________ *Gunner*

11-02-2005, 18:32	#45
irwinsailor Moderator Site Helper Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Macatawa Michigan Boat: Amanda Faye 61' Custom Irwin aftcockpit ketch Posts: 1,347 Images: 106	I picked up my east coast charts for the boat yesterday and spent 15 minutes with them. Wow I will need to be o my toes like I have never been before. Man is there a lot going on by the time you get to sandy hook. __________________ *Gunner*

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