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Old 16-09-2011, 17:34   #31
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Re: Hong Kong to Mediterranean

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No reason why not - except the route (from a Pacific planning chart I have) from the Torres to Panama direct (shipping route) is 8482 nautical miles. Heck of a long leg and even longer if you have to go north to sail the wind patterns.
The plan would be to either close to China or outside Taiwan February or maybe early March, sail up to Japan East side and make a temporary stop there. That first part about 1000Nm would probably involve some tack wind.
From Japan heading East but not higher than 40N to avoid the worst gale area, even though we probably will hit some, but with a little luck it will then be downwind. From Japan it should be mostly downwind and curent on the way to Los angeles, and that would be no more than about 5000NM from Japan.
After some rest in LA the trip to Panama, about 3000Nm.
That makes about 9000Nm with stops in Japan and LA.
It's a long trip no doubt, specially since it's onla a matter of transport and not so much stops and rests.
For me it would be this or paying 70-80000$ to ship it home and that I can't afford.
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Re: Hong Kong to Mediterranean

you still havent mentioned what vessel you intend sailing in.

also if it was me i would go via cape town
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Re: Hong Kong to Mediterranean

A 50" sail catamaran.
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Re: Hong Kong to Mediterranean

stay in the tropics,the north pacific in winter is no place for a 50 ft prout,aim to be in cape town around january
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Re: Hong Kong to Mediterranean

Don't plan on stopping in Japan with a private sail boat unless you are fluent in Japanese and have done it before. Research this carefully, the Japanese are very difficult to deal with when it comes to private vessels.
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Re: Hong Kong to Mediterranean

Okey, it seemes as if all advices talk against the Feb-March trip over the Northern Pacific.
If I go South heading for Cape Town instead, how come there are no "regular" routes passing between Sumatra and Jawa? Political or other problems, or just that most sailors prefer the Malacca or to go SE after Singapore?
It seemes the shortest way if going over Cocos Islands heading for Mauritius.
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Re: Hong Kong to Mediterranean

jan-march for n of the equator,ne trades for hk- sunda strts.

any time from april to november is good for a passage via cocos keeling,mauritius,se trades.

cape town,saint helena,recife,azores-gib in feb-may.

this route/timing avoids cyclone season, is all downwind, and is all blue water,hot weather sailing.......
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It's a long trip no doubt, specially since it's onla a matter of transport and not so much stops and rests.
For me it would be this or paying 70-80000$ to ship it home and that I can't afford.
Why not have it delivered for a third of that shipping cost....
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Why would a delivery be any better then sailing yourself. Any good sailor can fo a delivery , even owners !!

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Why would a delivery be any better then sailing yourself. Any good sailor can fo a delivery , even owners !!

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Not saying he cannot.. or that he's not a good sailor...
But not everyone has/wants that kind of time to spare...
the impression I got from his post was 'He'd have it shipped but cannot afford it... its just transportation etc...'
Just saying... he can save the pain for a third of the shipping cost...
No slurs... just a hopefully informative answer...
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"He"...which will be me, would very much like to sail the boat home myself, though it's in this case a matter of economy, since we are not yet in the situation to start sircumnavigating, but only want the boat from one point to another (of course with some enjoyment on the way), and will have to take time off from work which stops income etc., etc.
Basically a combination of economy and adventure, meaning that every suggestion is welcome, I can choose to take them or leave them.
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Re: Hong Kong to Mediterranean

If you are into cold weather and think the boat can handle it - there is the NEW route just opened up the last few years - the Northwest Passage. No tolls or canals to transit. Currently a single-hander just went through it this past summer and reported no ice blockages, he had open water the whole way. And if you are going to Northern Europe it is quite a good "short-cut." See: http://www.solotheamericas.org/?p=228
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If you are into cold weather and think the boat can handle it - there is the NEW route just opened up the last few years - the Northwest Passage.
Well I'm not sure I would like it that cold, even though it would be called summer up there. Also it seemes wind are easterly there in the summer. The guy mentioned sailed to the West, entering the Pacific.

If I read all the informative help I have got so far, it will be tough to do the sailing direct, that is without waiting for downwind seasons. Partly because the North Pacific is no fun in February-March, which had been necessary if I wanted to sail directly.

Tha Good Hope path would probably need a break in Cape Town, waiting for next seasons down wind...or perhaps possible to continue towards the Caribbean directly, if arrriving in Cape Town in mid April?

I can stay away from work for 7 months beginning January, so that's the time span I would have.
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Re: Hong Kong to Mediterranean

Just looked at my Pilot Charts and then the Arctic ocean charts. There are only a few windroses but in the June/Jul/Aug they indicate easterlies.
- - So head up the Bering Straits and hang a left - - go west, downwind, over the top of Russia. If the ice is receded from the Canadian Arctic then the same should hold for the Russian Arctic. Now that would be an adventure . . . Take a movie camera and you could probably sell the videos of the trip for big bucks.
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Re: Hong Kong to Mediterranean

Well I guess it would be advenoruos enough, but I'm not sure I would like the risk of getting stuck somewhere on the Northern Russian coastline, far away from any civilisation. Maybe sometime in the furure, but I would definitely prefer the warmer/hotter trip down South this time.
Eventually we will how it turns out.

Anyway, thanks to everyone for the different advices I have got on my initial post.
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