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Old 19-12-2009, 01:00   #31
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We're definitely not going to push through anything we don't have to.

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Old 22-12-2009, 00:59   #32
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Do not mean to throw a bucket of cold water on your plan, SeaCow, but maybe it is the recognition in each of your messages of your ongoing concerns that sees me having to say this - especially now we learn it is only paperwork driving you to take the risks.

I am a somewhat bullish sailor. Actually I like heavy weather sailing. So when you first posed your initial questions about this route you'll recall I was supportive of the trip..........

Not so any more. I suggest for the best possible reasons, you find a way to delay your departure until later next year.

Do not mean to insult you but it sounds like you've neither the experience or the confidence to do what you plan to do in safety. Read the story of the cargo ship going down off Lebanon this week to get some scope on how bad it can get and the outcomes of being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

What about diverting your obvious energy and enthusiasm into sorting that paperwork and amend your goal to waiting for a better time to depart?


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Old 22-12-2009, 01:12   #33
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Believe me, we've tried to sort the paperwork.. You cannot believe bureaucracy and the lack of cooperation or common sense between different ministries. One says leave or go to a special "detention center" for those staying beyond their time, another says you can't leave because we haven't processed your request yet.... You really cannot believe the madness. Our initial goal was to leave much sooner, and now I think that winter has definitely arrived and crossing is too risky. If we could have just left a month earlier. Now we are seeing where we might "move" with or without the boat, however likely we will be jumping from one frying pan to another.
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Old 22-12-2009, 04:02   #34
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there were 2 ships that sunk in the area in the last week-39 still missing off Lebnon with 13 bodies so far-
try hangin in the Greek islands your gonna be fine there until spring,

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