Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 24-10-2008, 13:22   #31
Senior Cruiser
 
starfish62's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Palm Beach, Florida
Boat: Gulfstar 44 Sloop
Posts: 647
Images: 4
Quote:
Originally Posted by pogo View Post
Canibul,
I don't know if your aware of a company that is in the business of taking photos by helocopter called "boatpix". They have been making a living by taking pix on major events (like sail rallies and photos of yachts underway)
So there is a market for that too. Good luck.

Pogo
The boatpix guys fly out of the Lake Worth inlet (Palm Beach) most every weekend and then send inquiries to the mailing address of the boat registration. If they can afford to fly around on a helicopter and take pics, then it seems you could certainly generate some cash with your idea. Maybe ask the folks at the Boy Scout marlin tourney for next year? I think it's at Provo. The sportfish guys are better funded!
__________________

__________________
Starfish
starfish62 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-10-2008, 18:37   #32
Sponsoring Vendor
 
harryrezz's Avatar

Community Sponsor
Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Southern Caribbean & Buffalo, NY
Boat: 44' CSY "Walkover" cutter, La Nostra
Posts: 220
Canibul - Yup - definitely a market. There is a Brit ex-pat who started taking pix of boats entering Elizabethtown harbor on Bequia is St. Vincent & Grenadines. He bounced along in an inflatable with a camera in hand shooting away, then came along side later in the afternoon with proofs to show. If you ordered he'd drop off prints the next morning. Did well enough that he trained a local to help him. I often have guests who want a pic of the boat they chartered on, and I have a couple myself. Adding the overhead perspective is cool! You would, however, have to get clearance from local authorities to run your business in their country, and not all would welcome you I'm afrade.
Give it a try!
__________________
Cap'nHar
s/v La Nostra
CSY 44 W/O cutter
Located in the Sunny Caribbean
"Life's short ... Eat dessert first!"
harryrezz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-02-2009, 04:20   #33
Registered User
 
Pat Glazz's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Ireland
Boat: 25' Bayliner motor cruiser which I've lived on for 6 months
Posts: 7
I recently started learning to fly a remote control helicopter, I had a similar idea. Heli I have in mind has very smooth flight will carry up to 15kg which is way more than I need for fitting a camera but I'd have a lot more control than I would with a balloon. I have a fairly cheap but VERY good color laser printer which prints up to A3 photo quailtiy pictures on photographic paper which I intend to take aboard, I as planning to offer to take ariel pictures of smaller resorts and hotel complexes that they could then use in their advertising. My brother used to 'cold call' on houses trying to sell ariel photos of the property taken by a plane, an A3 size picture was £300, I'd be happy selling 20 pictures at £15 than not being able to sell any at £300.

For full time live aboard like I plan it is obvious I'll need as many 'Irons' to put in the fire as possible, what's possible and allowed in one country might not be in another so I'm constantly looking for more new ideas but anything illegal is definately out of the question I want to spend my retirement on a 30x9 boat with fresh air and sea views not a 6x6 cell with gray walls :-)
__________________
Pat Glazz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-02-2009, 14:36   #34
֍֎֍֎֍֎֍֎֍֎

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 13,040
Pat, let us know how that laser printer likes the moist air on a boat, many of the toners will clump up or the moistue will affect the electrostatic transfer making for some tint in areas that should be white.

Still, if international trends have followed the profitable ones in the US, here we can send our digipix to any drugstore chain and they'll print them on genuine photographic paper for less than the cost of inkjet or laser printing. And of course, better quality too. You can always sell the draft on the spot--and have the real thing mailed to them afterwards. Or posted on a source like Shutterfly, where it can be ordered for a price. (Some of those allow you to sell the images per print, so the customer can always go back directly for more.)

What link would you use to see what the camera aloft was seeing? Blind shots wouldn't be composed very well, I'd guess.
__________________
hellosailor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26-02-2009, 03:58   #35
Registered User
 
Pat Glazz's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Ireland
Boat: 25' Bayliner motor cruiser which I've lived on for 6 months
Posts: 7
I'm really thinking of pushing the boat out (so to speak) I was looking into other means of taking good pictures and solving the problem of a link and came up with this

Draganflyer X6 Six Rotor UAV Helicopter Aerial Video Platform

Really gonna take a chunk out of my budget (about £8,000) but it does bring a lot more flexibility and possibilities to the ariel photography idea, would just have to make sure I didn't take it anywhere where I could be accused of spying. Might have to just stick to the bayliner for another summer and spend the time covering all the UK marinas and estate agents that want property photographed.

The printer as I said was VERY cheap so I'll try it till it breaks then probably go with your idea, and or perhaps present a portfolio of samples and a selecion of pictures on my laptop, copy them straight to CD and later post out one ready made print of the buyers choosing. Thats my favorite thing about digital - if the customer doesn't want the picture I haven't wasted money getting it developed just to disgard.

The X6 IS I admit a bit extravagant but I am an avid wildlife photographer and even if I wasn't planning to up stakes and head off into the sunset I'd be very tempted.
__________________
Pat Glazz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26-02-2009, 05:25   #36
Registered User
 
Christian Van H's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Princeton, NJ
Boat: Challenger Anacapa 42
Posts: 2,097
Images: 57
Finding this thread is too funny!

Hi all! I'm an amateur filmmaker, and this thread is really funny to me. Ya see, I built an R/C camera pod that hangs from a kite and downlinks video to the ground for control purposes last year. Flys off a medium size para-kite. I'm upgrading the Pod to HD video this year, and I'm taking it with me cruising next. My boat is beginning to resemble a "mini" Calypso. Anyone here familiar with Yves Gélinas, and his wonderful movie "With Jean-du-Sud Around the world"? He flew a 16mm camera on a kite back in the 70s, and brought home some awesome footage...UNDER SAIL!!! There is a whole following in kite and balloon photography, and there was even a magazine:KAP Background - The Aerial Eye .Famous photographer George Lawrence photgraphed the 1906 San Fran earthquake from kites. Well, I've already given away WAAAAY too many secrets, and I'm gonna shut my trap!

BTW, dont get too attached to any R/C plane or helicopter you fly FROM a boat. It's only a matter of time...
__________________
www.anacapas.com

Here's to swimmin' with bowlegged women!
Christian Van H is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26-02-2009, 06:01   #37
Registered User
 
Pat Glazz's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Ireland
Boat: 25' Bayliner motor cruiser which I've lived on for 6 months
Posts: 7
Quote:
Originally Posted by Christian Van H View Post
BTW, dont get too attached to any R/C plane or helicopter you fly FROM a boat. It's only a matter of time...
It's already happened fortunately it was a cheap one

If I go for this expensive model I'll keep it away from the water when possible, but I do like the GPS positioning that keeps it in one place without need to touch the controls and lets you concentrate on framing the shot. I had thought about the helium blimp but was worried about losing one of those to the wind - though obviously I suppose an attached fishing line would be light enough not to effect flight too much and secure it
__________________
Pat Glazz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26-02-2009, 08:54   #38
Registered User
 
Exocet's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: 49-29 N, 124-44 W
Boat: Beneteau 305
Posts: 69
I knew a guy who paid for his commercial pilots licence by taking pictures of the large planes landing (747's and the such), then approaching the pilots and stewardess's with a proof offering to sell. He found that his sales were in the 90% range, as very few pilots had a picture of themselves in the planes they actually flew. I cannot see why this would not work with boaters, however the sales rate may not reach 90% though. Anyways everybody knows someone who could sell ice to an eskimo, so in the end it's all about price and how well you sell yourself and the product.
__________________
Exocet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26-02-2009, 09:19   #39
֍֎֍֎֍֎֍֎֍֎

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 13,040
Excocet, these days if one hung around a runway with a big telephoto lens taking pictures of the pilots in their planes...You'd quickly and regularly have big new friends in uniforms. Everyone's a wee bit paranoid about these things, I know birdwatchers who regularly have to explain why "two people with binoculars" are found in various places.

"DragonFly X6 Military Applications" Well, it is nice to know a civilian can buy such tings, but oh yeah, that's gonna start a world of pain, unless you're flying it into Waziristan.
__________________
hellosailor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26-02-2009, 12:54   #40
Armchair Bucketeer
 
David_Old_Jersey's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 10,013
Images: 4
Quote:
Originally Posted by Exocet View Post
I knew a guy who paid for his commercial pilots licence by taking pictures of the large planes landing (747's and the such), then approaching the pilots and stewardess's with a proof offering to sell. He found that his sales were in the 90% range, as very few pilots had a picture of themselves in the planes they actually flew. I cannot see why this would not work with boaters, however the sales rate may not reach 90% though. Anyways everybody knows someone who could sell ice to an eskimo, so in the end it's all about price and how well you sell yourself and the product.
I think that sounds doable - especially for a Cruiser with a boat who can move from area to area and take good "action" shots. And with Digital little waste for film. Probably not cost effective for the onshore locals to bother trying - especially waiting for "good" days.
David_Old_Jersey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-02-2009, 02:20   #41
Registered User
 
Celestialsailor's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: In Mexico, working on the boat
Boat: Hallberg Rassy 35. and 14ft.Whitehall pulling skiff.
Posts: 8,013
Images: 5
At $16,000 for a draganflyer, I would make sure there is a market for it!
__________________
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming: Wow - what a ride!"

http://wwwjolielle.blogspot.com/
Celestialsailor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2009, 13:31   #42
Registered User
 
bangkaboat's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Sihanoukville, Cambodia
Boat: looking
Posts: 593
Images: 3
Are you kidding me? You need to ask if it's a good idea? It's genius! Especially in areas where there are a lot of charters. In Vancouver, there's a company taking photos from a high-tower on their boat. They charge a fair bit & are busy all summer, last I heard. If you were in the Philippines, I'd hire you to do all of our beach properties. As well, I'd suggest you market it to various government tourist bureaus. Much cheaper than hiring a plane.
__________________
bangkaboat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2009, 15:41   #43
Registered User

Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: UK East Coast
Boat: Riviera 35
Posts: 285
Bankaboat is right. Also, the press departments (Public Affairs) of the shipping companies buy a lot of pictures of their ships (especially cruise ship and ferry operators). Quite often, they charter aircraft to do press packs on vessels. Then, there's magazines, press libraries such as Popperfoto and others. Sounds like a cracking business idea to me.
__________________
MoonlightShadow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2009, 07:08   #44
Registered User
 
Exocet's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: 49-29 N, 124-44 W
Boat: Beneteau 305
Posts: 69
The herring fleet is just starting to get geared up here on Vancouver Island. Now I know that if I head out in my dingy (or Boat) and took pictures of the boats at work with their boat name nicely framed in the picture, and then approached the captain with said photo, betcha I get a 75% sale rate (guess it kinda depends on the price, I don't know, say about $50). I would think that I could do the same for all the tankers that ply the waters here, problem there is finding the Captains of said tankers. As far as trying to sell a photo to a cruiser, good luck, I think they would head out in the dingy and snap a few photo's themselves, I know I have. Anyway, think I will see if I am just blowing smoke outta my butt or not, head out today or tomorrow and see about selling a few photo's and let you all know how I made out, let see if I do get that 75% success rate or not?
__________________
Exocet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2009, 08:53   #45
֍֎֍֎֍֎֍֎֍֎

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 13,040
A 75% success rate....only if you accept paying in buckets of herring.(G)

And if they don't scoop you up in the trawl nets, they tend to get upset at small craft hanging about in their paths.

But seriously, nothing ventured nothing lost, ergh, gained. It would be interesting to hear if any of them do buy the photos from you!
__________________

__________________
hellosailor is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Here's an idea Little Otter Engines and Propulsion Systems 14 10-07-2008 13:09
Just an idea........ David_Old_Jersey Forum Tech Support & Site Help 3 22-04-2008 12:51
hello everyone! I have a great idea matty133 Meets & Greets 22 14-10-2007 13:27
Just an Idea seafox Other 13 24-06-2007 15:41



Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 14:26.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.