Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 20-08-2012, 09:12   #31
Registered User
 
micah719's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Somewhere in Germany
Boat: OEM, proportional
Posts: 1,439
Re: The real lifonomics of sailing / cruising

Because truth isn't dictated by consensus. I had imagined the cruising community were more aware of the farce of modern life and had answers as to living somewhat separate from it, but it seems I was mistaken. One either needs the income from collaboration with it to be able to afford to cruise, or do it barebones as a poor man. Thing is, once one has the money, does one still have the soul? I haven't had any rebuttals of the info I supplied, or answers as to what it means different to what I stated. Perhaps the sand is more comfortable. Laforge, all the best at getting your boat & her mooring.
__________________

__________________
Ps 139:9-10 If I take the wings of the morning, and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea; Even there shall thy hand lead me, and thy right hand shall hold me.
micah719 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-08-2012, 23:30   #32
Registered User
 
Jaxxiam's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: 35° 46' 14" N 83° 56' 50" W
Posts: 97
Re: The real lifonomics of sailing / cruising

Everything said here IMHO is true. But my truth is based on living in the “NOW”, having a goal that is just on my outer most reaches, and most importantly – loving life. I see so many people getting wrapped up in the menucha of life and you have the whole generation of instant gratification, it drive me crazy that “so many” people rely on so many others for their well being.

I for one, have worked and studied very hard to get where I my in life and I do not like “institutions” reaching into my pockets.

Yes, we live in a social world and need to keep some civility but at some point the “camel’s back” will break. Do we keep loading the camel? In most cases it’s going into debt, it’s a vicious cycle. You need money to live, you need education to make money, you go into debt to get the education and work most of your life to pay for the education. How do we break out? How do we get into a position to reach our goals?

For me, it’s making the hard decisions. Many opportunities have come my way, some bad, some good. With due diligence I have made it out of debt and now looking for the boat that will take to places where I can refill my soul.
__________________

__________________
Jaxxiam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-08-2012, 00:29   #33
Registered User

Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: france/dordogne
Boat: Fountaine Pajot Lavezz 40ft
Posts: 197
Re: The real lifonomics of sailing / cruising

Humans are the most adapting mammals, the world is changing !! so adapt,
don't look at others to compare ones own situation, make the best out of the one you got.
Maybe tomorrow there will be no more wind, we'll find a way to be out there and do
our thing.
__________________
laforge24 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-08-2012, 14:42   #34
Senior Cruiser

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: between the devil and the deep blue sea
Boat: a sailing boat
Posts: 17,314
Re: The real lifonomics of sailing / cruising

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaxxiam View Post
Everything said here IMHO is true. But my truth is based on living in the “NOW”, having a goal that is just on my outer most reaches, and most importantly – loving life. I see so many people getting wrapped up in the menucha of life and you have the whole generation of instant gratification, it drive me crazy that “so many” people rely on so many others for their well being.

I for one, have worked and studied very hard to get where I my in life and I do not like “institutions” reaching into my pockets.

Yes, we live in a social world and need to keep some civility but at some point the “camel’s back” will break. Do we keep loading the camel? In most cases it’s going into debt, it’s a vicious cycle. You need money to live, you need education to make money, you go into debt to get the education and work most of your life to pay for the education. How do we break out? How do we get into a position to reach our goals?

For me, it’s making the hard decisions. Many opportunities have come my way, some bad, some good. With due diligence I have made it out of debt and now looking for the boat that will take to places where I can refill my soul.
+1!

Something is telling me you will find what you are looking for.

Cheers,
b.
__________________
barnakiel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23-08-2012, 22:36   #35
Registered User
 
Jaxxiam's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: 35° 46' 14" N 83° 56' 50" W
Posts: 97
Re: The Real Lifonomics of Sailing / Cruising

Thanks barnakiel,
I plan for the worst and hope for the best.

Cheers to you my friend!
__________________
Jaxxiam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23-08-2012, 23:08   #36
Registered User

Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 474
Re: The Real Lifonomics of Sailing / Cruising

I have worked in Australia, New Zealand, and Canada. Except for not having the right paperwork when I arrived in New Zealand, Canada was the hardest one to get into. Well, one time, I looked like a tourist and got right in, but another time, they asked "What job are you doing that couldn't be done by a Canadian?" Among other questions. We came up with a list of ten things you don't want to say to Canadian customs during the long car trip...

As for entitlement/socialism vs work/risk, I would take socialism. I hate having to find 'the best' insurance plan each year that you don't want to use, manage my 401k/IRA, do these complicated tax forms, etc. I have lots of other things to do. Yes, it could be setup better so that there is less corruption and fraud, and yes, it assumes that the vast majority of people will be 'good actors' and live lives where they don't try to hurt themselves. Plus, you get more time to vacation, travel, and worry less about losing your job. And since I won't be able to retire any eariler than a European or Australian, what is the point of working 2-6 weeks more a year, having lots of my taxes go towards the interest and military (who aren't stop piracy), and worrying about losing my savings with one surgery?
__________________

__________________
SunDevil is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
cruising, sailing

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 18:13.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.