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Old 14-02-2015, 13:19   #16
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Re: supplemental kitty income; getting a masters underway

Most of what can be said has been. Will add a couple of thought. The difference between a decision and a plan it that if you decide to do something it happens, now or soon. If you plan to do something later, in the future, something will come along and at least change it if not deflect you entirely. This is how our lifestyle traps us, school college, job, marriage, kids, grandchildren, always something you 'aught' to do, something to make the future secure. It's all a myth, I have met very happy people who have never left their home town and who have roamed the world but the old adage that you wont sit in a nursing home regretting the things you DID do is very true (I know, I am a seniors care nurse). Also the things you DID will be what you look back on not the things you HAD.

Can't offer anything on the MBA side, not my field, but on nursing I have international experience as a nurse and nurse educator.
The Bsc is the way to go. In Europe it has been essential for RN registration for some time, in the Americas it is going that way.
I have worked with distance, blended and on campus learning as a student and tutor. Distance learning is good for short, specialist, training for people in work. For full time and basic training it is very challenging. You really miss a lot of value not having face to face contact. Blended learning using remote classrooms, teleconferencing and periods on campus works well in many ways and is becoming a major route for professional development in many areas. An important point to think about is that nursing is a PRACTICAL subject. My RN program was 50% in the hospital setting, how can this be achieved with an online course? If I was interviewing a new grad for a first post as a nurse, and they had done there qualification on line, I would take a lot of convincing that they had the practical skills and experience needed. The minimum would be good reports from their practicum supervisors who had worked with them, in a practice setting, for an extended period. Also when selecting a school I would want verifiable reviews from past students who had gained there license and successfully moved into practice. Plus a written statement from the licensing board that they accepted that schools qualifications obtained via the online route. I still would not recommend it but might then consider it possible. Possibly a course which offered the academic study online but with practice placements lasting at least 4 weeks at regular intervals through the course would work. In all this I am talking about pre-registration training, if you complete registration and they work as an associate nurse for a few years then want to go back to school for the Bsc programme that would be very different.
Portability. The idea that nurses (or any other professionals) can work anywhere has some truth but is a bit of a miss-conception. I trained in Europe and practiced there for 13years, I now live in Canada and am registered here so it is possible. However it took 4 years to compete the registration transfer, would have been quicker to go back to school and re-qualify! in the process I met people who had been trying for much longer. Regionally you can be very mobile. If you train in the USA moving state or to Canada seams relatively simple (but can still take 6 months to a year). Training in Europe and moving to another European country was similar. Don't expect to be able to just walk into another licensing jurisdiction and get a job.
Best specialisms would be emergency room, intensive care and rural practice. Possibly pediatrics depending on where you are interested in going. Often the best way to do mobile nursing is through working with and agency. Most still require 2+ years practice within their jurisdiction but it is a good way of being mobile and doing short contracts within a region. Travel nursing is another route worth looking at. Mostly they want you there for a contract NOW. You wont be able to get advanced contracts that allow time to sail there.
Have you though about getting the boat now and doing school from the boat? Then continue to cruise within a region, working in different places for 6 months to a year, then taking time off for travel and doing the same thing in a new place?

May people seem to find that the longer they leave it the harder it becomes Then it is something they where always going to do but never did. if you want it, do it now and solve the problems. Living on a boat (even at anchor) and working is definitely possible and fun, I have been a 'dingy commuter' and loved it. I also worked as a distance learning tutor from the boat. Mobile internet/phone was important but you are right, satellite is prohibitive, needs to be G3 or wide area WiFi
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Old 14-02-2015, 18:03   #17
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We have found an interesting alternative. We have found schools for both of our academic programs which offer 100% online classes.
Lots of information (and misinformation) at

DegreeInfo Distance Learning - online degree forum - The Front Page

Be very careful. There are several dodgy "accreditation" agencies out there and some accredited schools have dreadful reputations in industry (eg: University of Phoenix). Don't enroll at a school that advertises on the radio like it was a muffler shop.

I would think that the first issue would be: is the program accredited by the

Accreditation Commission for Education in Nursing or

American Association of Colleges of Nursing | CCNE Accreditation

Some nursing schools are "approved" by the state that they are in but not nationally accredited. Not a good choice if you ever want to move to another state. Anyway, they don't offer advanced nursing degrees (post RN) so far as I know.
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Re: supplemental kitty income; getting a masters underway

I used to tell my staff, when writing or speaking you have 12 seconds to get their attention. When writing an email stick to one topic and try to keep the message to no more than eight lines.

IMO. A straight line is the most direct path to your goal. Buy a boat as soon as possible and go cruising for a year or two... come back and get jobs... let the company pay for your advanced degrees. I took 4 years to get my MBA from a good Catholic/private university while working full time and the company paid 100% of tuition and books.
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I used to tell my staff, when writing or speaking you have 12 seconds to get their attention. When writing an email stick to one topic and try to keep the message to no more than eight lines.

IMO. A straight line is the most direct path to your goal. Buy a boat as soon as possible and go cruising for a year or two... come back and get jobs... let the company pay for your advanced degrees. I took 4 years to get my MBA from a good Catholic/private university while working full time and the company paid 100% of tuition and books.
From roland stockholm's post, it appears that the practicum is most important in nursing, and that the BSc should come first. Or did I misunderstand?

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From roland stockholm's post, it appears that the practicum is most important in nursing, and that the BSc should come first. Or did I misunderstand?

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Probably right Ann. I might have skipped part of the posts One should certainly determine the most appropriate time for their departure.

When my daughter asks advice about travel and adventure, I tell her (until she is sick of hearing it I am sure) that I haven't regretted the things I did, but the things I didn't do.
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The last time I posted in this sub-forum was in 2010, when I asked about the viability of a sort of boat co-opt, to fund long term cruising. <clip>

We would obtain our masters degrees in relatively short order, (full time 3 years) for less money/debt (cheaper living expenses than staying ashore) finance a portion of the trip (via living stipends), and return home with higher earning power. (to dig us out of the hole the trip puts us in.) oh….. and we would also see the world on a sailboat.

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it seems availability of internet would be the cornerstone of this whole strategy; satellite solutions seem far too cost prohibitive.

thoughts on the general idea?
Academic advising is an area that is of some interest to me. I work with a lot of students as one my hats is mentoring the interns that roll through our world. One of the primary drivers (for or against) on-line academic institutions is what the potential employers thinks of them. If the hiring company is not impressed by the institution's credentials or the reputation of those are already from there, then the new students are wasting their time and money. Most credible universities do offer on-line courses but not for every class. Look into their syllabus and see if that makes sense for you.

The way you find out what employers think is by cold calling the companies that you are hoping to work at and speak to their Human Resource people. Ask them about how many students have you hired from <fill in the blank>? Also helpful is to learn the names of the institutions that they are getting their most recent new-hires from as well as their offerings for internships.

The thing not mentioned with the on-line courses is likely the most important and that is getting hands on experience at local employers. You'll want to find out where are they placing their interns or co-ops and how many of them are getting picked up once they get their degrees.

Never lose sight of the fact that the purpose of getting a college degree is to get hired. Having a piece of parchment is nice, but having a job because of it is even better. I

If you are going to go to school, you need to be working those internships because those who do it are normally the first to get hired.

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