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Old 26-01-2018, 05:17   #1
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Fellow aussies with aussie registration

Can anyone clarify this for me;
I have just had my recently purchased yacht in greece, registered in Aus.
The rego certificate has the new name of the yacht (different to the bill of sale) but does not state the HIN. Not evan an area to state it as im sure your own cert will be the same (i know their office records do)

Now, iam wondering if foreign officials are that onto it? As in, the bill of sale has the OLDvessel name and HIN but aussie rego cert only has a NEW name, No HIN. Do officals try to tie everything together? For all they know the rego papers could be for a completely different boat because there is no unique number tieing the rego cert to the boat. Yes the name is on the boat and cert, although anyone can slap stickers on a boat.

Mabe iam over thinking this haha.
Iam new to this so i havnt had to give any documents to foreign people as of yet.
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Re: Fellow aussies with aussie registration

Can you please explain this more clearly. I would be more than happy to help but unfortunately I cannot understand at all the whole situation...
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You are probably overthinking it.

If you followed the instructions when you were awarded the registration you should now have the ON and overall length securely fixed/punched,drilled into the structure of the vessel and the name and port of registry marked on the vessel as they required. These identify the vessel according to an international shipping identification convention.

AMSA may also have noted the engine number on the certificate. The certificate also includes details of the ownership of the vessel in 1/64 shares.

As far as the world at large is concerned the vessels identity and ownership is now established per an international convention to which Australia is a signatory.

You no longer have a boat as AMSA does not recognize anything called a "boat" they only recognize "ships" and ships don't have a HIN although they may have a builders hull number.

You probably also received a letter which informed you that the identities marked on the vessel have to be maintained properly and that it must not be identified in any other than the official manner. This is because the convention requires that a ship only have a single unique identification.

As far as the Australian government, and any other party to the convention, is concerned you have already adequately proven the ownership of the vessel as stated on the registration certificate and consequently do not require any other documentation. A bill of sale should no longer be required unless you sell the vessel to someone else and they want to transfer the registration.
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You are probably overthinking it.

If you followed the instructions when you were awarded the registration you should now have the ON and overall length securely fixed/punched,drilled into the structure of the vessel and the name and port of registry marked on the vessel as they required. These identify the vessel according to an international shipping identification convention.

AMSA may also have noted the engine number on the certificate. The certificate also includes details of the ownership of the vessel in 1/64 shares.

As far as the world at large is concerned the vessels identity and ownership is now established per an international convention to which Australia is a signatory.

You no longer have a boat as AMSA does not recognize anything called a "boat" they only recognize "ships" and ships don't have a HIN although they may have a builders hull number.

You probably also received a letter which informed you that the identities marked on the vessel have to be maintained properly and that it must not be identified in any other than the official manner. This is because the convention requires that a ship only have a single unique identification.

As far as the Australian government, and any other party to the convention, is concerned you have already adequately proven the ownership of the vessel as stated on the registration certificate and consequently do not require any other documentation. A bill of sale should no longer be required unless you sell the vessel to someone else and they want to transfer the registration.


Thanks for the detailed reply mate.
Answered all the questions i was thinking. Good man.
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