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Old 01-09-2015, 20:19   #1
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Thousand Islands, Cedar Island

I am wondering if any one has had a bigger boat (35', 5' draft) into the East dock on Cedar Island, Thousand Islands in September?

Online info is spotty- non existent. Charts show 5'. I'll be single handing in with no depth sounder. It appears if I stay mid way between Whiskey and Cedar Islands I'll be okay for the approach, but how much water is at the docks themselves? It appears as though there are two docks that can handle a 35' boat, tie up at the end of the T dock and maybe get into the finger dock immediately to the North of the T dock?

Likewise, info on the floating dock extension at the south end of Aubrey Island, TI, would be appreciated.


Any concerns about currents would be appreciated as well.

Thanks. FV.

Edit: I have a leadline I can use if conditions are benign. Mike O'Reilly, Hamburking, Droberts?
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Re: Thousand Islands, Cedar Island

We visited most of the islands in the last two seasons by dinghy. The docks appear to be mostly suitable for power boats and are very busy and noisy. September may be better. If you must use the docks, Active Captain has good info. The water is usually very clear and if you approach slowly you should be able to see if it is deep enough. Charts often show less depth then there actually is. No currents to worry about except in the bridge area.
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Re: Thousand Islands, Cedar Island

That's what I didn't want to hear

Thanks for the tip on Active Captain, hopefully I can shoe horn the boat in there some how.

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I would highly recommend anchoring (free) or using one of the park moorings ($20). There are many beautiful spots. Some places have iron rings in the rock for tying stern-to.
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Re: Thousand Islands, Cedar Island

Sorry FV, I've not been there yet ... and with our 6' draft it sounds like I'll have to stay away.
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Re: Thousand Islands, Cedar Island

We'll see. The dock is in a 5' contour, but according to NOAA the St Lawrence is 30" above chart datum, the problem is, I don't know how steep the bottom is. I will update in a couple of weeks when I know more.

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Re: Thousand Islands, Cedar Island

You sir are a brave man poking around the 1000 islands without a depth sounder.
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You sir are a brave man poking around the 1000 islands without a depth sounder.
Well I've got paper charts, I usually avoid contours less than 8 or 10 feet and rocks. If I have to go into thin water, I go very slowly.

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You sir are a brave man poking around the 1000 islands without a depth sounder.
Ah, you use the ultimate depth sounder ... your keel .

I was going to ask about that as well. I'm a fan of the good old lead line, but for my money a good depth sounder is THE single most important tool for navigation after Mk-I eyeballs. I know I'm not telling you anything new ... you're more a seaman that I'll ever be. So I'm puzzled FV.

I'm assuming your Fantasia is a solid core? If so, it's painfully easy, and pretty cheap, to install a good sounder.
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Well, I don't know if I'm more of a seaman, I struggle just like every one else does. Some times a lot.

Yes, you're correct, solid core, I guess I just never considered installing a depth sounder, I didn't sea the need.

My only installed electronics are my Standard Horizon VHF and my Comnav Autopilot.

I tend to use my paper charts, pencil and compass for all navigation. I just haven't really been in a situation where I needed anything more, so can't justify the expense and added complexity to myself.

I worked on Buoy Tenders out of Prescott for years, so I have positioned and serviced every single buoy on the sea way from Probably Quebec City to Detour, so I know where the channels are from hanging out on the edge of them.

I buoy tended first as a Seaman, so I saw how much chain was needed and what sized counterweight.

Next as a wheelsman, so I station kept at each buoy.

Finally as navigation officer so I plotted and did the reports on each and everyone.

I'm not saying I know every channel by heart, because I don't, but I have a good general feel for the channels and my local knowledge covers a rather large area.

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Re: Thousand Islands, Cedar Island

FamilyVan you'll be fine at the east docks but DON'T approach from the west between Whiskey and Cedar. If coming from the west go around the south side of the island, lots of water there. When docked you will see a few tour boats going through on the north side of the Island but you'll also notice they pass on the north side of Whiskey Island. If your not extremely familiar with those waters I wouldn't recommend you follow their route, its all rock on both sides. Years back I remember a CS36 Merlin trying the passage on the north side of Whiskey, he missed and I'm sure his boat needed to be hauled for repairs.
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Re: Thousand Islands, Cedar Island

Thanks Drum, I'm going to have to sit down with a chart and read this so I fully understand.

I really appreciate very detailed pilotage information, its much easier than trying to use an electronic device to guess my way through.

My boat can take a pretty serious hit before needing hauled for repairs, one of the reasons I bought her

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Re: Thousand Islands, Cedar Island

Coincidence you posted about Cedar, I was thinking of possibly heading there this weekend. Coming from the west, Prinyer's Cove.
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I'm going to wait until the following Sunday, won't it be crowded this week end?

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Re: Thousand Islands, Cedar Island

I ended up enjoying the Bay of Quinte so much I didn't end up making it to Cedar Island as originally planned. I thought I'd share this pic of our return trip down the Bateaux Channel by the However Island Ferry, taken by a friend on a tour boat.



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