Originally Posted by a64pilot
Heinlein and I believe Asimov were genius, but I do love old science fiction, I grew up on it.
Heinlein in particular was devoutly very "right wing" so beware if your not. One of the best books
I ever read was Starship Troopers, great book, very stupid movie
, it's more of a political statement than it is entertainment.
some of Heinlein's more memorable quotes
Robert A. Heinlein - Wikiquote
Thanks for that, what a fantastic resource! The www rocks, for sure. (at least, for now!)
I may not share Heinlein's politics, but very few of his ideas strike me as contrary to evidence (fascinating, though, that he seems to be the origin, say, of the "polite society" quote - most peculiar lacuna ... unless he was being ironic. It would be a giggle if the quote was being misunderstood and misapplied, out of context. Note to self: get the book and see !)
But stuff like this is, to my way of thinking, pure gold:
<<I now define "moral behavior" as "behavior that tends toward survival." I won't argue with philosophers or theologians who choose to use the word "moral" to mean something else, but I do not think anyone can define "behavior that tends toward extinction" as being "moral" without stretching the word "moral" all out of shape.>>Robert Heinlein
I suppose I'm falling into the trap of approving of an idea for no better reason than it being similar to one I'd come up with - in my case, that 'moral behaviour' is behaviour which 'works', in the sense of upholding or furthering the common good, as judged over the long term.
It does seem to me that there are traps in applying both his and my formulation, for instance: what about an unpopular behaviour which does
add to (or is neutral to) the common good (or species survival prospects), if a few people do it, but not if everybody does it?
Easter Islanders who erected statues would have been performing no disservice to their survival prospects, if they hadn't been so widely imitated.
(I noticed, too, that his quote skirts rather delicately around a
common logical fallacy, namely "denying the antecedent". Clever boy!)
Bloody hell, this has got pretty heavy, specially for this time of day.
Particular apologies to all fellow Greenwich anti-latitudinarians...